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36" THT Low Profile, Warning lots of coffin pictures
Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2015 4:22 pm
by El dillo
Re: 36" THT Low Profile, Warning lots of pictures
Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2015 1:08 am
by El dillo
First i got confused about how many bracers to use with this width, the plans says 3 sets wider than 25". But more rigid is better so i used 4, have anybody had any problems with panels resonating?

Re: 36" THT Low Profile, Warning lots of pictures
Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2015 3:15 am
by Grant Bunter
Looking great so far
To many braces is way better than not enough!
Panel resonance is not always detectable, and it can account for a loss in output of around 3dB...
Re: 36" THT Low Profile, Warning lots of pictures
Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2015 10:48 am
by El dillo
Ok good to know

, i was more worried about unwanted noise.
I think im going to try a different design for the cover...
Maybe laminate ply and mdf (and braced), I also want to use T-nuts and countersunk holes for screws.
Re: 36" THT Low Profile, Warning lots of pictures
Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2015 10:54 am
by El dillo
How much could the internal volume of the closed chamber vary from the original design (36") without affect the sound for the worse?
Re: 36" THT Low Profile, Warning lots of pictures
Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2015 1:30 pm
by Radian
Stay away from MDF. It doesn't have enough rigidity for these applications.
Re: 36" THT Low Profile, Warning lots of pictures
Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2015 3:16 pm
by Grant Bunter
How much could the internal volume of the closed chamber vary from the original design (36") without affect the sound for the worse?
It shouldn't vary at all, other than the tolerance of panels making it 1/16" to 1/8" out.
Stick to the plans.
The chamber size in the plans is the size the chamber needs to be...
Re: 36" THT Low Profile, Warning lots of pictures
Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2015 7:40 pm
by caddylackn
That is going to be heavvvy
What driver are you using? What are you going to use for an amp?
Re: 36" THT Low Profile, Warning lots of pictures
Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2015 6:30 am
by El dillo
It shouldn't vary at all, other than the tolerance of panels making it 1/16" to 1/8" out.
Stick to the plans.
Ok, it just seems like the cover in a 36" needs more stabaility, Bracing it may be enough then.
That is going to be heavvvy
What driver are you using? What are you going to use for an amp?
I surely hope it will not exceed the wheight of my old concrete sub enclosures

(80kg) i almost broke my back everytime i had to move them.
I think a sack trolley will do the job.
i will use the Dayton Audio RSS390HF-4 driver with an extra gasket connected to one channel from a stereo amp (upgrade comes later) and the crossover is in the AV- reciever.
Re: 36" THT Low Profile, Warning lots of pictures
Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2015 6:51 am
by El dillo
6/2 bracers
I was thinking it needed the airflow so i made all of the panel 6/2 bracers with an cutout (for the driver), the bracers that are not oppsite the driver should these be without?

Re: 36" THT Low Profile, Warning lots of pictures
Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2015 12:11 am
by Tom Smit
You can leave those 6/2 braces as is because it does not matter. The only reason for the notches is so that the driver will not contact the braces.
Re: 36" THT Low Profile, Warning lots of pictures
Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2015 1:50 pm
by El dillo
Test fitting the other side panel...

Some misalignment to fix
I also had to do some planing and grinding on the width panels because of height differences.
It was all cut at the workshop

Re: 36" THT Low Profile, Warning lots of pictures
Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2015 7:58 pm
by El dillo
Some Plastic Padding will fix it.
The other panels was almost perfect, but some had to be re drilled.
Bought 4 tubes of glue, almost 2 full that would be enough for the rest.
Re: 36" THT Low Profile, Warning lots of pictures
Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2015 5:32 pm
by El dillo
Re: 36" THT Low Profile, Warning lots of pictures
Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2015 9:28 pm
by caddylackn
I would add some braces perpendicular and in between those lid braces that would stiffen it up along the other axis. While those braces stiffened up the lid in the short direction, in the long direction you could get flex. If the final placement of the speaker will put the access panel in contact with the ground with the speaker throat pointing up, the extra bracing wouldn't be needed. The only way it could flex would be to lift up that 200 lb speaker
I wonder if the connection panel need to be sealed with silicone or if it will be airtight just with a rubber seal.
Follow the leakage test in the plans. It is easy to hear air leaks in the access panel with a hose to your ear. You can always use the rubber seal, test it, if it leaks seal the entire perimeter gap of the access with clear latex caulk. It goes on as white, and dries clear. It is paintable, water clean up, and easy to cut cleanly if you ever need the access panel off again. Silicon, makes a mess and isn't paintable. It is hard to cut cleanly, it wants to tear.