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squeeze out - PL

Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2015 8:49 pm
by Stratispho
This stuff really continues to ooze doesn't it? I pulled the plunger out to release the pressure at least 6" from the end of the run and it still oozed out all over the place. Ended up putting a screw in the tip to plug it and left it tip down in a corner with wax paper under it.

I think I could get away with putting about half this amount on as there was a lot more squeeze out than I anticipated.

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Re: squeeze out - PL

Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2015 11:53 pm
by ripNdeb
Doesn't look too bad. Definitely too much is better than not enough. I usually stop the plunger a little early and squeeze out the last little bit from the nozzle with my fingers then, as you have, put a screw into the nozzle.

Re: squeeze out - PL

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2015 12:13 am
by Tom Smit
The squeeze-out is not that bad. It definitely shows that the panels will probably be air tight.

Have you wrapped the tube with tape, and, made several punctures through the skin past the nozzle?

Re: squeeze out - PL

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2015 11:03 am
by Stratispho
Tom Smit wrote:Have you wrapped the tube with tape
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I didn't, thanks for the reminder.
Tom Smit wrote:and, made several punctures through the skin past the nozzle?
Haven't heard or seen this. Are you talking about inside the nozzle, the barrier that you pop?

Re: squeeze out - PL

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2015 12:18 pm
by Rich4349
Tom Smit wrote: Have you wrapped the tube with tape, and, made several punctures through the skin past the nozzle?
I have NO idea what this means. Wrapped around it circumferentially? Or end to end, to hold in the plug? If circumferentially, wouldn't this only serve to INCREASE the pressure and push the plug out more?

And "past the nozzle"...? Past it one way is through the tube side itself, past the nozzle the other way is in open space! This reminds me of communication games where you can only use words, no imagery, to get someone to do something physical.

Re: squeeze out - PL

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2015 12:30 pm
by Stratispho
Rich4349 wrote:
Tom Smit wrote: Have you wrapped the tube with tape, and, made several punctures through the skin past the nozzle?
I have NO idea what this means. Wrapped around it circumferentially? Or end to end, to hold in the plug? If circumferentially, wouldn't this only serve to INCREASE the pressure and push the plug out more?
Wrap it around the circumference. It keeps the cardboard tube from expanding when you apply pressure on the back end. This in turn prevents the nozzle from continuing to discharge (as much) after you've let go of the handle.
Tom Smit wrote:A tip shared by DJP is to wrap the cartridge with tape from top to bottom. I found that this works quite well after a few squeezes. Release the rod tension just before finishing the laying of the PL strip and there is virtually no drips. A 10d nail is a cheap plug.
This is the same concept.
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I read that you can use zip ties wrapped around it to accomplish the same thing.

Re: squeeze out - PL

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2015 10:28 pm
by Tom Smit
Stratispho wrote:
Wrap it around the circumference. It keeps the cardboard tube from expanding when you apply pressure on the back end. This in turn prevents the nozzle from continuing to discharge (as much) after you've let go of the handle.
+1
Stratispho wrote:
Tom Smit wrote:and, made several punctures through the skin past the nozzle?
Haven't heard or seen this. Are you talking about inside the nozzle, the barrier that you pop?
Yes.

Re: squeeze out - PL

Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2015 11:56 am
by Stratispho
Tom, I'll make a few more punctures tonight before I work again.

Re: squeeze out - PL

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2015 6:52 pm
by heavybdrums
When doing a series of glue ups, I place a rag (t shirt or other rag that I use for nothing else) on the workbench and place the tip of the gun on it to avoid getting glue on the table. After a while the rag gets absolutely gorry with glue, but I can still use it for future glue-ups to catch the squeeze out. Actually I concur, the glue squeeze out looks good, in fact, before the glue squeeze out gets hard I usually run a caulk bead of glue in addition on the insides to ensure an airtight seal, so the inside of my cabs actually have more glue around the joints.

Re: squeeze out - PL

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2015 6:57 pm
by heavybdrums
Stratispho wrote:
Tom Smit wrote:Have you wrapped the tube with tape
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I didn't, thanks for the reminder.
Tom Smit wrote:and, made several punctures through the skin past the nozzle?
Haven't heard or seen this. Are you talking about inside the nozzle, the barrier that you pop?
Yeapper he's referring to making several punctures through the seal when the tube is new. This reduces the pressure build up that can cause the tube to run on excessively. This will only help but not eliminate the run on, it's just a fact of life.

Re: squeeze out - PL

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2015 8:24 pm
by Stratispho
After punching a few more holes in it and wrapping more tape it seems to be much better. I'm still using too much glue but I'd rather buy a new tube at $4.50 vs not having everything air tight.

Re: squeeze out - PL

Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2015 6:00 pm
by DJPhatman
Stratispho wrote:After punching a few more holes in it and wrapping more tape it seems to be much better. I'm still using too much glue but I'd rather buy a new tube at $4.50 vs not having everything air tight.
+1,000,000!