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Worth a read... speaker falls on 10 year old
Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2015 7:28 pm
by Rick Lee
Re: Worth a read... speaker falls on 10 year old
Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2015 8:52 pm
by David Raehn
I hate tripods.... But they seem to be a necessary piece of kit for what we do in smaller venues.
Alas, they are for TEMPORARY use.... Not eleven days.

Re: Worth a read... speaker falls on 10 year old
Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2015 10:15 pm
by Rick Lee
draehn wrote:Alas, they are for TEMPORARY use.... Not eleven days.

And I can picture in my mind that they probably didn't have the legs fully extended...
And the amount of injury it caused is eye opening!
Re: Worth a read... speaker falls on 10 year old
Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2015 11:29 pm
by Grant Bunter
Hmmm.
Interesting. Certainly a constant reminder regarding vigilance in set-up for us.
Rick, you're right about the injury caused, it is eye opening
It seems quite excessive that roughly 60lps in weight of static materail would do that much damage.
My own experience is that tripod stands used inside get knocked over, not fall over by themselves...
Re: Worth a read... speaker falls on 10 year old
Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2015 9:12 am
by Ryan Sober
Grant Bunter wrote:
My own experience is that tripod stands used inside get knocked over, not fall over by themselves...
We have a winner.
He was probably messing with the stand, or pulling on the cable.
Kids are stupid.
Re: Worth a read... speaker falls on 10 year old
Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2015 9:23 am
by Bill Fitzmaurice
Ryan Sober wrote:
He was probably messing with the stand, or pulling on the cable.
Kids are stupid.
It was in a gym. Kids play in gyms. That doesn't mean he might not have done something stupid, but whatever it might have been it was less stupid than the adult who left it set up in a place where kids should be able to play without worrying about having large objects fall on them.
Re: Worth a read... speaker falls on 10 year old
Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2015 9:43 am
by Rune Bivrin
Bill Fitzmaurice wrote:Ryan Sober wrote:
He was probably messing with the stand, or pulling on the cable.
Kids are stupid.
It was in a gym. Kids play in gyms. That doesn't mean he might not have done something stupid, but whatever it might have been it was less stupid than the adult who left it set up in a place where kids should be able to play without worrying about having large objects fall on them.
+1
I'm usually one to scorn the US for the litigious nature of the society, but in this case I find it warranted.
Re: Worth a read... speaker falls on 10 year old
Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2015 11:36 am
by dswpro
I try to avoid it but I do use tripod stands but usually put them behind my T39's to avoid this and other annoyances, like bar patrons who decide to re-point my speakers in the middle of a show b/c their standing spot is louder than they would like. Without fail, the tallest person in the room will park their head in front of one of my Otops. I really pity their hearing the next day. I cannot imagine leaving a tripod setup without supervision, especially where children are at play. Adults are bad enough.
Re: Worth a read... speaker falls on 10 year old
Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2015 11:56 am
by ripNdeb
Ryan Sober wrote:
Kids are stupid.
I'm surprised you're are still on this, or any other forum and that post hasn't been deleted or at least edited. 50lbs on a 60 or 80lb kid??? I have no kids and in fact don't much care for being around them personally. But, I seriously take offense to this statement. How old are you Ryan? How much do you weigh? Take something your weight and drop it on yourself from 6' OK?
Re: Worth a read... speaker falls on 10 year old
Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2015 11:57 am
by mattaudio
Seems like a couple of these with lag bolts could have prevented the problem, even if it was partially due to horseplay.
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Re: Worth a read... speaker falls on 10 year old
Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2015 1:35 pm
by ketoet
Indeed that tripod and speakers should have been taken down when not in use and certainly when kids are playing around it. Kids aren't stupid but they do stupid things at times. It's up to the adults to prevent them from hurting themselves as much as possible.
My girlfriend is a teacher and sometimes i take my system to her school for a schoolparty. The speakers en electronics are always kept out of reach from the children and even most adults. Because we all turn into little kids when we have a beer or 10 don't we
edit: typo's
Re: Worth a read... speaker falls on 10 year old
Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2015 6:40 pm
by jimbo7
I read it like the speaker was 10yrs old. The whole article I was waiting to find out what speaker it was.

Re: Worth a read... speaker falls on 10 year old
Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2015 9:56 pm
by Ryan Sober
ripNdeb wrote:Ryan Sober wrote:
Kids are stupid.
I'm surprised you're are still on this, or any other forum and that post hasn't been deleted or at least edited. 50lbs on a 60 or 80lb kid??? I have no kids and in fact don't much care for being around them personally. But, I seriously take offense to this statement. How old are you Ryan? How much do you weigh? Take something your weight and drop it on yourself from 6' OK?
I'm 25. I remember middle and high school clearly.
I remember kids doing donuts in the parking lot, and being surprised when they slid their cars into light poles.
I remember kids riding skateboards down stairs, and being surprised when they broke their arms/wrists/legs.
I remember watching stupid classmates do stupid things. And then wondering why they happened.
And every time, they happened because they were doing stupid things.
So, yeah, the speaker shouldn't have been there, and they're perfectly within their rights to sue.
In fact, I hope they win, because they should.
But it doesn't change the fact that it was probably the kid doing something stupid to cause the speaker to fall on him.
We all know how gravity works... and it ain't magic.
I'm sorry you took offense. I just call it like I see it.
I hate it for the kid, and his family. I wish him a speedy recovery.
Re: Worth a read... speaker falls on 10 year old
Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2015 7:07 am
by Bill Fitzmaurice
Ryan Sober wrote:
But it doesn't change the fact that it was probably the kid doing something stupid to cause the speaker to fall on him.
Kids doing something stupid is to be expected. The number one cause of death of males below the age of 25 is stupidity. One of the primary responsibilities of adults is to make it more difficult for the young and stupid to do damage to themselves. They should not make it easier.
Re: Worth a read... speaker falls on 10 year old
Posted: Fri May 29, 2015 8:55 pm
by heavybdrums
My question is "Why didn't the school call the ambulance". Apparently the parents were called to pick him up from school and then taken to the hospital, that's just wrong!!! Kids may be stupid but the adults involved seem not much better.