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Saw a new version of the DCX on Behringer's website, the DCX2496LE. I'm unsure if this has been mentioned previously, but I haven't seen it on here if it has.

It seems to be the same as the standard model, but minus the 3rd and the digital inputs and no CF card





£175/$250 including 3 year warranty.

An weirdly, on Thomann at least, they cost the same amount. Go figure...

I find it strange that they removed two of the useful features. A digital connection to the DEQ and a dedicated place to plug the microphone in.

It would be interesting to know if there is any quality improvement.

(Edit: Getting my products mixed up, you don't plug a mic into the DCX!)

Chris_Allen wrote:I find it strange that they removed two of the useful features. A digital connection to the DEQ and a dedicated place to plug the microphone in.

It would be interesting to know if there is any quality improvement.

It did say on Berry's sales page that it has lots of processing power - the old one was weak in this department, although I cannot tell if this is just sales blurb or a genuine improvement.

Chris Allen wrote:(Edit: Getting my products mixed up, you don't plug a mic into the DCX!)

Yeah you can... it does polarity checking and time alignment

escapemcp wrote: It did say on Berry's sales page that it has lots of processing power - the old one was weak in this department, although I cannot tell if this is just sales blurb or a genuine improvement.

The latest firmware of the regular DCX has lots of processing power too. The old version would run out of EQ's fairly quickly, especially with high slope crossovers engaged. The latest version doesn't have this shortcoming.

The one thing I like about the regular DCX with 3 inputs was for DJ work you could run a booth out from your DJ mixer into the 3rd input. Then cross over the output around 80-100 hz and back out to your DJ monitors using outputs 5 or 6. That really cleans up the sound of the monitors and is still independently volume controlled by your booth knob on your DJ mixer. As long as the subwoofer stack is within 20 feet or so of the DJ table, the transition at crossover is seamless. Ideally I wish they made a model with 4 inputs, 6 outs so you could run a stereo monitor mix. Or at least have mono main/booth outs on the DJ mixer itself.

A lack of a digital out is more than mere convenience, it means latency stacks as you add components. In the case of the DEQ/DCX LE combo you will have about 10ms vs 5ms with the DEQ/DCX digital connection. That can be a problem for some situations. For DJ shows, 15ms is the max difference (less is better) you want between headphones and monitor speakers (less is better). Any more than that and your DJ can get vertigo from the apparent panning back and forth of the sound as he alternately uses his left/right cans (our brain uses time delay for location in the mids). This isn't a myth, I've had headliners throw up on me . The time delay just for travel distance from the monitors to the DJ is about 5ms (5 feet sound travel distance) so keeping the total digital latency below about 5ms is the goal.

CoronaOperator wrote:The latest firmware of the regular DCX has lots of processing power too. The old version would run out of EQ's fairly quickly, especially with high slope crossovers engaged. The latest version doesn't have this shortcoming.

I can't make heads or tails of the behringer website in regards to the firmware updates for the DCX.

Version 1.17 release notes say:
Important notice: due to technical differences this firmware is not compatible with older models of the DCX2496. Before you attempt to upgrade - please call up "setup > miscellaneous" to check the version which is currently installed in your DCX2496. This file is only compatible with versions newer than V1.17.

So you can only update version 1.17 to the new version 1.17?

Edit: Forget it. After reading a bit more about the firmware updates and all the problems people have had with bricking their DCX, I'm pretty sure I'm not interested in the update.

jswingchun wrote: So you can only update version 1.17 to the new version 1.17?

That looks to be the case .

Mt first DCX went on the fritz so I had to buy another unit, didn't know the old ones couldn't be upgraded until you just pointed that out. There is a HUGE difference in processing power, I really can't see anyone running out. Experimenting, I was up to 15 bands of parametric EQ with 48db/octave slopes before I ran out. Lower slopes would give you even more bands of EQ.

CoronaOperator wrote:

jswingchun wrote: So you can only update version 1.17 to the new version 1.17?

That looks to be the case .

Mt first DCX went on the fritz so I had to buy another unit, didn't know the old ones couldn't be upgraded until you just pointed that out. There is a HUGE difference in processing power, I really can't see anyone running out. Experimenting, I was up to 15 bands of parametric EQ with 48db/octave slopes before I ran out. Lower slopes would give you even more bands of EQ.

Thanks, but in case you missed my edit above. I'm not going to update my firmware. I read too many scary posts.