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I have just connected my relatively new ( 2 years old but never used ) xti 2002 to Bandmanager 2

Input is mono into Ch 1 (Y)

Ch 1 output is going to subs

Ch 2 output is going to mid/high boxes

Output mode is in Dual

In Band manager 2 I have setup the Xover to 135 Hz, i have also setup a hard limit at 35v for both outputs. There are no EQs activated.

The problem is is that I can see the input signal coming in from my desk but cannot see any output signal. When I turn the amp up via the knobs on the front panel there is no sound coming out of the speakers. However, when I go into the input section i can activate the pink noise and it comes out of the speakers.

Also if i crank the input gain right up beyond clipping and turn the channels right up i can hear the sound leaking through the amp.

All mutes, as far as I can see, have been checked to -.

The pink noise works fine so I've got the PA hooked up correctly, I'm assuming I'm missing something on the software setup side of things.

Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

does the amp pass audio when set to "dsp off" on the front?

Harley.. try System Architect instead of Band Manager. I don't know if there's any difference in interface, but SA has been quite straightforward for me.

As far as the routing goes, there are two places where signal can stop after the attenuators (hard and software) but before the signal generator. There are mute buttons, and input mode. It sounds like you may have the wrong input mode.

they've actually made Sys architect legacy now. on to "audio architect". basically the same thing.... (I notice very little difference).

On the front panel of BM, are both input and outputs "unmuted"? It seems a little difficult to distinguish. And, I take it that the "mute" on the bottom right is unmuted as well?

On the crossovers, you have selected "independant", yah?

On the EQ input, are the channels bypassed?

Tom Smit wrote:On the front panel of BM, are both input and outputs "unmuted"? It seems a little difficult to distinguish.

sine143 wrote:does the amp pass audio when set to "dsp off" on the front?

So, are you saying that BandManager 2 doesn't give the same degree of control as the front panel? Do I have to screw around with both to get it working? Which over-rides the other in that case?

Tom Smit wrote:And, I take it that the "mute" on the bottom right is unmuted as well?

Yes

Tom Smit wrote:On the crossovers, you have selected "independant", yah?

Yes

Tom Smit wrote:On the EQ input, are the channels bypassed?

Can't tell. How do you know that's the case?

i'm just asking if it passes audio with no dsp settings enabled. If the answer is no, its not band managers fault. I've only ever used System architect (and now audio architect).

Harley wrote: So, are you saying that BandManager 2 doesn't give the same degree of control as the front panel? Do I have to screw around with both to get it working? Which over-rides the other in that case?

The front panel allows you to recall presets, which must be created in the software, so technically the front panel takes precedence... but only so much as you give it.

First thing....is #3-x-over selected in "store"? I don't know if this is valid, or not.

Harley wrote:

Tom Smit wrote:On the EQ input, are the channels bypassed?

Can't tell. How do you know that's the case?

Double-click on the "EQ" button. On that page near the top/right are the CH 1 bypass, and CH 2 bypass.

I don't have an XTI so I can't tell if any of this will work. Just trying to guess what may work.

I use System Architect....

Obviously when you open your program, and plug the Amp USB into the 'puter an XTi2002 icon pops up in band manager?

It generally gives you three options, Receive info 'from' Amp, Send info 'to' Amp or Work Offline mode.

I usually enable front panel lockout.

When I double click the amp icon it gives me a 'real time' (synchronised) display of the amp. 4 x level meters. 2 for the input and 2 for the output.

Do you get a similar display? Does said display show that the amp is receiving the signal that you are giving it?

Titanium Hand wrote: Does said display show that the amp is receiving the signal that you are giving it?

Yep...and shows no output signal.

Titanium Hand wrote:It generally gives you three options, Receive info 'from' Amp, Send info 'to' Amp or Work Offline mode.

Nope. It just searches for the device, says it's found and the whole dashboard is then present without any option questioning.

Tom Smit wrote:First thing....is #3-x-over selected in "store"? I don't know if this is valid, or not.

Yep, that was the first one we changed to from BRG SUBS.

I'm away from town for the rest of the week so I'l have to wait until I return to have a good look at stuff.

This is why I don't own a smart phone.

Factory reset and start again?

Chris_Allen wrote:Factory reset and start again?

The manual has no reference to 'Reset' or 'Factory reset'. It just mentions 'Presets'

Harley wrote: ↑Sun Feb 23, 2014 10:57 am

Tom Smit wrote:On the front panel of BM, are both input and outputs "unmuted"? It seems a little difficult to distinguish.

sine143 wrote:does the amp pass audio when set to "dsp off" on the front?

So, are you saying that BandManager 2 doesn't give the same degree of control as the front panel? Do I have to screw around with both to get it working? Which over-rides the other in that case?

Yes, the front display controls CAN and did override my System Architect settings. I had "lost" channel 2 after using my XTi at a gig last weekend, and dug through a lot of old posts to find this hint of a solution. (But, of course, only AFTER removing the amp from the rack, removing the cover, unplugging and re-plugging in the display ribbon cable! )

Hopefully this helps someone else in the future.