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Actually, it's very likely legit. Good southern gospel bass singers can go incredibly low.

BrentEvans wrote:Actually, it's very likely legit. Good southern gospel bass singers can go incredibly low.

I watched this the other day.....something just doesn't feel, sound, look, or smell right about this.

I think someone has done some work on it. While there are some really low bass singers out there (I really dig it because I sing bass in a gospel quartet occasionally), this doesn't sound right. And there wasn't anything else from this guy that I could find.

I vote that it's legit. I remember a quartet years ago - I think they were the "Travelers" that had a bass singer with a low C.

It's treated IMO. Why would anyone want to go that low? It's unlistenable. Realistically, Lee Marvin's "I was born under a Wanderin' Star" is about as low as a human voice can go. And I can do it if it's early enough in the morning.

wounded horse wrote:It's treated IMO. Why would anyone want to go that low? It's unlistenable. Realistically, Lee Marvin's "I was born under a Wanderin' Star" is about as low as a human voice can go. And I can do it if it's early enough in the morning.

There are always outliers. Some guys can hit these low notes with great precision. That's not to say it's useful in a melodic sense, but it really is just an effect of having long vocal cords and control.

This guy does a two octave dip that's very nearly as low as the previous video:



And the great JD Sumner recorded before manipulation... in some of these recordings you can hear his voice breaking, so you know it's real:



Then again, it might all just be vocal fry... but well controlled

Brent,

Both of those examples sound like a real voice. Those two guys are digging deep!

The first one posted seems processed to me.

Bruce Weldy wrote:

BrentEvans wrote:Actually, it's very likely legit. Good southern gospel bass singers can go incredibly low.

I watched this the other day.....something just doesn't feel, sound, look, or smell right about this.

I think someone has done some work on it. While there are some really low bass singers out there (I really dig it because I sing bass in a gospel quartet occasionally), this doesn't sound right. And there wasn't anything else from this guy that I could find.

+1. I think it's possible, but this doesn't look or sound right to me.

Here's the complete video. The prior clip starts at 3:45. It appears to be unmanipulated. The last chorus slows down, but is clearly in the same key as before, and there is speech at the beginning which appears to be at a normal pace (video manipulation is more evident in speech than in music).

BrentEvans wrote:

wounded horse wrote:It's treated IMO. Why would anyone want to go that low? It's unlistenable. Realistically, Lee Marvin's "I was born under a Wanderin' Star" is about as low as a human voice can go. And I can do it if it's early enough in the morning.

There are always outliers. Some guys can hit these low notes with great precision. That's not to say it's useful in a melodic sense, but it really is just an effect of having long vocal cords and control.

This guy does a two octave dip that's very nearly as low as the previous video:



And the great JD Sumner recorded before manipulation... in some of these recordings you can hear his voice breaking, so you know it's real:



Then again, it might all just be vocal fry... but well controlled

These two seemed alot better to me...and JD Sumner...real deal all the way.

With the first clip and full version, the video seems to be a little out of sync with the audio all the way through. Even with that, I'm not convinced they're not lip syncing on top of that. His mic seemed really smooth for all that moving an he'd smile while keeping the same pronunciation. The initial dialog is live of course. However, I do believe he (and the guy in the second video) could do that in the studio or live with no treatment. I think this one is bad video with bad lip syncing.

Thanks for the vids and the link, Brent!

doncolga wrote:With the first clip and full version, the video seems to be a little out of sync with the audio all the way through. Even with that, I'm not convinced they're not lip syncing on top of that. His mic seemed really smooth for all that moving an he'd smile while keeping the same pronunciation. The initial dialog is live of course. However, I do believe he (and the guy in the second video) could do that in the studio or live with no treatment. I think this one is bad video with bad lip syncing.

I agree that its probably dubbed but that the vocal track is unaltered from a real time recording.