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XTI: accessing system architect from a distance

Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2013 5:36 am
by sine143
Hey guys, so I realize that 16 is the max distance for usb ports, however, I'm trying to monitor my amp activity from FOH using system architect and the USB ports on the amplifier.

My first thought is there must be a way to convert to ethernet or something similar, and then i can just run it with the xlr snake. however, I was wondering if any of you guys had already found a simple solution to this. Thoughts?

Re: XTI: accessing system architect from a distance

Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2013 7:38 am
by Chris_Allen
It's nowhere near that simple because USB needs a stack to manage data. My knowledge on this is massively hazy these days but you would need something to de-serialise the connection and that is almost a complete redesign.

It would be easier to have a local computer/laptop to the amps and remote desktop over wireless.

Re: XTI: accessing system architect from a distance

Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2013 8:03 am
by BrentEvans
there are plenty of usb to cat5 converters on the market. google is your friend. :)

There are also interfaces to do usb over IP, at considerably higher prices. For the purposes of managing a single amp remotely, this might be a bit of overkill.

May I also suggest to the OP that the DSP in your amp should be fixed as a system tuning device? If you want to tweak master eq, put a graphic in line at FOH. If you are having to tweak continuously, your tuning isn't right.

Re: XTI: accessing system architect from a distance

Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2013 9:16 am
by sine143
My DSP is fixed. however, ever so often I will adjust xover points slightly (between acts etc) . the main reason I like to interface with System architect is because the metering is much better (clip light esp so). it also allows me to really push things with my subs, safeley. 90 percent of the acts that play on my system are heavy duty cycle, sub bass sine freq content electronic music. If sitting near the amp with sys architect open, i like to keep the sub output around neg 3 db.

I realize there are many cat5/usb interfaces available online. thats mostly the reason I asked this question, because I wanted to know if any of YOU people use any of those products with success with the xti


I realize the USBX is coming out... but 199 to use my iphone for metering seems steep....

Re: XTI: accessing system architect from a distance

Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2013 9:48 am
by Chris_Allen
BrentEvans wrote:there are plenty of usb to cat5 converters on the market. google is your friend. :)
I thought this was literally just an extension using the cat5 pairs for noise cancellation.
There are also interfaces to do usb over IP, at considerably higher prices. For the purposes of managing a single amp remotely, this might be a bit of overkill.
This would be what I would class as de-serialisation - didn't know such devices existed though.

Re: XTI: accessing system architect from a distance

Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2013 11:56 am
by netwerks
hook a cheapo windows wireless laptop up where your amps are and if you have an ipad or other laptop use windows remote desktop to control it remotely. There are a ton of other options via remote desktop. You can even buy a wireless travel router for $20 but its not needed. Problem solved.

Re: XTI: accessing system architect from a distance

Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2013 1:12 pm
by DJPhatman
netwerks wrote:hook a cheapo windows wireless laptop up where your amps are and if you have an ipad or other laptop use windows remote desktop to control it remotely. There are a ton of other options via remote desktop. You can even buy a wireless travel router for $20 but its not needed. Problem solved.
+1 Create an AD-HOC direct connection network between the 2 wireless devices. Easy direct control.

Re: XTI: accessing system architect from a distance

Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 10:03 pm
by rotebass
Check it out closer, it does more than just monitoring over WIFI.

http://www.crownaudio.com/usbx-htm.html

I've not seen it in action myself, but know a few that have. Look foward to being able to control my IT and XTIs from the same interface.