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Table Tuba 18" wide build (Finished, Pictures on page3+4)

Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2013 8:55 am
by zvipster
So I got home yesterday and there was my new puppy :D
JBL GTO804, I am breaking it in as we speak, 10v and 25.52 hz.
I will probably build it from MDF seeing that is way cheaper here.
Pictures will come when I start the build, and that should be monday.

Edit:
Pictures on page 3.

Re: Table Tuba 18" wide build

Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2013 6:18 pm
by 67baja
Let me be the first to tell you to use good 1/2 " plywood. Its just not wort it to use mdf.

Re: Table Tuba 18" wide build

Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2013 6:27 pm
by Michael Ewald Hansen
67baja wrote:Let me be the first to tell you to use good 1/2 " plywood. Its just not wort it to use mdf.
+1

MDF is crap to work with..

Re: Table Tuba 18" wide build

Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2013 6:49 pm
by zvipster
67baja wrote:Let me be the first to tell you to use good 1/2 " plywood. Its just not wort it to use mdf.
But it is cheap, like 1/4 the price of BB/B so I'll be going with MDF.
But thanks for the heads up!

Re: Table Tuba 18" wide build

Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2013 6:53 pm
by Michael Ewald Hansen
zvipster wrote:
67baja wrote:Let me be the first to tell you to use good 1/2 " plywood. Its just not wort it to use mdf.
But it is cheap, like 1/4 the price of BB/B so I'll be going with MDF.
But thanks for the heads up!
Why would you want to spend hours and hours of work, a bunch of money on driver, nuts, bolts, screws, glue, gasket, paint etc, and then buy a crappy material to save a few bucks? :bash: A sheet of MDF is usually around 180dkk and radiata pine ply is around 300 and superior in almost every way.. That saves you 200-250dkk on 2 sheets - around 35$.

Beats me, but its your project :noob:

Re: Table Tuba 18" wide build

Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2013 12:00 pm
by Bruce Weldy
Michael Ewald Hansen wrote:
zvipster wrote:
67baja wrote:Let me be the first to tell you to use good 1/2 " plywood. Its just not wort it to use mdf.
But it is cheap, like 1/4 the price of BB/B so I'll be going with MDF.
But thanks for the heads up!
Why would you want to spend hours and hours of work, a bunch of money on driver, nuts, bolts, screws, glue, gasket, paint etc, and then buy a crappy material to save a few bucks? :bash: A sheet of MDF is usually around 180dkk and radiata pine ply is around 300 and superior in almost every way.. That saves you 200-250dkk on 2 sheets - around 35$.

Beats me, but its your project :noob:

+1

This is really good advice. Take a minute and run the numbers that he gave you. You will spend many, many hours of your time on this build (and working with MDF will increase that time). The difference in the price of ply vs. MDF is small considering what you will spend on everything else.

Re: Table Tuba 18" wide build

Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2013 1:54 pm
by zvipster
Michael Ewald Hansen wrote:
zvipster wrote:
67baja wrote:Let me be the first to tell you to use good 1/2 " plywood. Its just not wort it to use mdf.
But it is cheap, like 1/4 the price of BB/B so I'll be going with MDF.
But thanks for the heads up!
Why would you want to spend hours and hours of work, a bunch of money on driver, nuts, bolts, screws, glue, gasket, paint etc, and then buy a crappy material to save a few bucks? :bash: A sheet of MDF is usually around 180dkk and radiata pine ply is around 300 and superior in almost every way.. That saves you 200-250dkk on 2 sheets - around 35$.

Beats me, but its your project :noob:
I Can get The MDF for 130dkk. Cheapest I've been able to find plywood, and that was Asian, was 320dkk.
Is the Asian ok to build from, or what is the problem with that?

Re: Table Tuba 18" wide build

Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2013 3:11 pm
by zvipster
The plans don't stafe the reason as to why the Asian ply is bad, does anyone know why it is bad?
Or is it not bad but just not as good as birch.
The reason for me going with the MDF is that the plans said to not use Asian.
And the plans said it was ok to use MDf.

Re: Table Tuba 18" wide build

Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2013 5:11 pm
by Ryan A
zvipster wrote:The plans don't stafe the reason as to why the Asian ply is bad, does anyone know why it is bad?
Or is it not bad but just not as good as birch.
The reason for me going with the MDF is that the plans said to not use Asian.
And the plans said it was ok to use MDf.
One reason is because asian birch has a thin veneer that will easily chip off. In other words not all the plies are full width plies.

Re: Table Tuba 18" wide build

Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 4:24 am
by zvipster
Starting now

Re: Table Tuba 18" wide build

Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 6:22 am
by Rune Bivrin
Good on you!

You'll be fine. MDF is heavy and produces a lot of fine dust, but on the other hand it doesn't warp and is much easier to get a furniture class finish on.

The dust may be an issue, so wearing a mask is recommended, but for one-off builds I doubt it's a particularly significant health concern.

Re: Table Tuba 18" wide build

Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 6:26 am
by zvipster
Rune Bivrin wrote:Good on you!

You'll be fine. MDF is heavy and produces a lot of fine dust, but on the other hand it doesn't warp and is much easier to get a furniture class finish on.

The dust may be an issue, so wearing a mask is recommended, but for one-off builds I doubt it's a particularly significant health concern.
I actually went with the Radiata pine, seeing it would be easier to work with.
Well, atleast when it comes to screwing it together.

Re: Table Tuba 18" wide build

Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 6:37 am
by Rune Bivrin
You will be glueing it together, I hope! :cop:

Screwing is just to hold the panel together while the glue cures.

Re: Table Tuba 18" wide build

Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 7:59 am
by zvipster
I've calcuted 1" to be 2,5cm isthis wrong?

Re: Table Tuba 18" wide build

Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 8:01 am
by miked
zvipster wrote:I've calcuted 1" to be 2,5cm isthis wrong?
2.54cm, technically. I used this a lot when overseas.
http://www.worldwidemetric.com/measurements.html