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So this is one of the finest clubs in London purely from a dance music point of view, where some huuuuuuuge artists have played and others have started out their rise to fame. For some reason, Google Maps has been inside. Never been in personally but the room the camera sits in looks fairly sparse of speakers and damn those brick walls...

http://www.google.com/maps?q=fabric+lon ... 8QPc8PiGCQ

Brick walls, wood floors and a steel ceiling.
I can't imagine how bad it must sound in there.

I'm hoping the main room is better laid out than that. It looks great but it hurts my ears just imagining...

Target market is probably the guys with 130 dB / 50% THD systems in their cars, so probably suits them just fine

Probably suits the cleaners and the dancers fine too.

Fill it up with sound deadening meatbags buying drinks, everyones happy?

^^ I'm not about to stoop to that level

Looks nice inside though.

Fabric?

Obvious none of you have ever been in there.

Rank poseurs more interested in themselves than music. Strictly tabloid. Where slappers go to try and meet celebs and fottballers. Where the latest "It" girl likes to be photgraphed coming out of with a rock star off their heads at 3am. Money and sex and bling. If you like that and plinky plonk pap house it's your kind of place.

Sound-wise Ministry (of Sound) is better but it's also on the club tourist map.

Shoreditch is where to go in London. Or...

http://www.universityofdub.com/

Basstafari!

UROK wrote:Shoreditch is where to go in London. Or...

http://www.universityofdub.com/

Basstafari!

Educate me about sound systems, they look like great big stacks of ill-placed self-made speakers.

I know!

It is sad. But there's a retro cultishness in roots reggae and dub that necessitates scoops and heavy iron.

My opinion is that was the DIY of the 70s and 80s. BFD is the DIY of now. But I have discussed this with various of them guys and they even say dub sounds better through the heavy distortion and that modern especially digital gear is "too clean".

There's no denying Aba Shanti's rig produces thunderous bass. Sheeeeet! But at what cost?

4 dual T60s would crush that though. That is my plan - to play dub through a big BFD festival system. It took a lot of reading of this forum to deprogram my scoop bin notions but ultimately having a modern rig than can handle techno and R&D made most sense financially. Scoops don't like banging kicks and really deep bass.

Still, a great night out. Way more friendly and positive than any night in Fabric.

EDIT: FYI or in case anyone takes leave of their senses and decides abandon BFD in favor of scops and big amps:

http://www.jtsstudio.co.uk/pages/proaudio.htm

Check the Annihilator amps! £2000+

UROK wrote:My opinion is that was the DIY of the 70s and 80s. BFD is the DIY of now. But I have discussed this with various of them guys and they even say dub sounds better through the heavy distortion and that modern especially digital gear is "too clean".

Er, just run the mixer in the red?? I remember testing out what would happen if you ran the mixer too far into the red and this is probably what they're after... It sounded absolute bollocks.

I like the visual statement of massive sound systems like that, when I worked in Leeds we rented a (large) storage unit and the guys next door had one. Their lock up was just filled with speakers, all looking like they were thrown together over the course of a weed hazed weekend. They'd come over with a couple of large vans and spend hours wheeling the massive stacks out, all scoops like the above, I'm not even sure they had any tops in there... I've heard a couple of systems but know naff all about them outside of 'they're all made in back gardens', and they mostly played worn out records over them.

Shit, even a pair of T60s would slaughter most sound systems and that's not even talking quality. If you need distortion there's a million ways to add it, yeah it won't be a 'true' sound system but it'll be far superior.

88h88 wrote:Er, just run the mixer in the red??

I just "bit my tongue " and quietly cringed when I was last told "I live in the red"

Imagine modding a pre-amp which which has had all the values erased for tubes!

Far too much time on your hands!

http://www.interruptor.ch/Php5/dubboard ... ed_284.jpg

Sydney wrote:I just "bit my tongue " and quietly cringed when I was last told "I live in the red"

Like I said, I've tried it out to see what it does and was impressed at the mess it made of the sound. It amazes me how many DJs run their gear into distortion, Behringer's new range of Nox amps come with just yellow and red lights on the vu meter and no actual notation to tell you what any of it means...

88h88 wrote:It amazes me how many DJs run their gear into distortion,

I know nothing about the genre in this thread, but a lot of non-DJ's do this as well.
It seems like the only goals in these installations are high SPL and a "look"

I'm providing equipment for a friend's birthday at the end of March and there'll be several bands playing so I get to play 'God'. I swear I will bitch slap anyone trying to push things. Luckily I'll be getting in before the event to test the room so rules will be laid down well in advance.