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DI boxes

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2011 3:21 pm
by Dan30
Do you guys think the $100+ DIs are worth it? I'm not talking Sansamps or anything with an EQ on it, but the boxes more along the lines of a Countryman that are made to be transparent.

Re: DI boxes

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2011 4:22 pm
by GirlyHandedDog
Dan30 wrote:Do you guys think the $100+ DIs are worth it? I'm not talking Sansamps or anything with an EQ on it, but the boxes more along the lines of a Countryman that are made to be transparent.
This is what I use live on my acoustic guitar: http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/U5/. It's awesome.

Re: DI boxes

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2011 4:23 pm
by Bruce Weldy
Dan30 wrote:Do you guys think the $100+ DIs are worth it? I'm not talking Sansamps or anything with an EQ on it, but the boxes more along the lines of a Countryman that are made to be transparent.
For live applications, I'd say no. If you want a higher quality one for bass guitar, that's a plus - but not necessary. I use Horizon boxes branded by my buddie's music store - about $30 each and they sound just fine.

Plus, you don't want others stepping on, throwing around, or just generally abusing your high-dollar Radial Tone-Bone.....then playing through it with a crappy rig that won't sound any better anyway......just ain't worth it.

Re: DI boxes

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2011 9:53 pm
by Dan30
LOL I don't think i'll be getting one of those any time soon GHD. A tid bit out of my price range.

Thanks for the input Bruce.

Re: DI boxes

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 3:29 am
by Dave Non-Zero
The main difference I've found between my BSS dis and behringer versions is how they sound when over driven. The behringer sounds naaaaasty if a keyboardist turns way up for example, but the BSS doesn't clip and pop, it just fuzzes a bit. Ie not something most people would notice in the audience. ;)

Re: DI boxes

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 9:09 pm
by Israel
my personal only used by me and just me DI box
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/pro-audi ... 5000000000

others in the band or for general use DI box
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/pro-audi ... 5000000000

i have some livewire solutions on my project studio I dunno what model but i think im in love with that livewire solutions stuff, cheap and good

Re: DI boxes

Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 3:39 pm
by Larry Acklin
The radial DI (green one) for about $100 kicks the snot over every other passive DI I own (I have about 15)

The Behringer DI100 (BSS copy) works pretty good. MUST use neutrik or switchcraft XLRs to connect to it- the cheap cables crackle/pop and hiss, and you can blow the HF drivers if someone kicks it on stage.

I agree with Israel about the LiveWire DIs but you have to be careful about the gnd lift and pad switches, they are easy to bump and break with hard use. And they are still near $30.

Save your beer money and buy Radials.

Larry

Re: DI boxes

Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 3:58 pm
by Dan30
Building cabs has already not left me any beer money. Especially enough to purchase the fine micros and imports I like so much.

Re: DI boxes

Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 4:27 pm
by BrentEvans
I bought a few of the DB-01 boxes from OSP recently, and I am impressed with them for the price. They're not as nice as the radials, but they're perfect to keep in a travel rig... they sound pretty good and seem durable. I'd put them on par with something like the Whirlwind IMP-2 as far as sound, with a few added features (like a pad). And... they're cheap to replace if they get beaten up.

Re: DI boxes

Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 4:29 pm
by Jon Barnhardt
BrentEvans wrote:I bought a few of the DB-01 boxes from OSP recently, and I am impressed with them for the price. They're not as nice as the radials, but they're perfect to keep in a travel rig... they sound pretty good and seem durable. I'd put them on par with something like the Whirlwind IMP-2 as far as sound, with a few added features (like a pad). And... they're cheap to replace if they get beaten up.
+1 I also have a couple from OSP

Re: DI boxes

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 11:11 pm
by byacey
Passive DI's are OK for keyboards, amplifier line out, and other high level, low impedance sources ( 50K ohm and under) but when you start getting into higher impedance (100K+) pickups, like passive guitar / bass pickups, peizo transducers on violins, acoustic guitars, etc, transformer DI's will load the pickup and alter the tone considerably. The other problem is with a transformer, to get a higher input impedance, you have to increase the turns ratio which means a bigger loss through the transformer.

In cases like that, an active FET input is the best choice, something with an input impedance of at least 1 meg ohm. A DI like this is pretty much good for any kind of input, and has virtually no loss, except for what is designed in the DI circuit, typically -10 to -20 dB to prevent clipping the mic preamp.

Countryman is a very highly respected DI in the industry for performance and robust, durable construction. I have reverse engineered a number of different DI boxes, and Countryman is still my favorite.

Re: DI boxes

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 4:16 am
by Grant Bunter
BrentEvans wrote:I bought a few of the DB-01 boxes from OSP recently, and I am impressed with them for the price. They're not as nice as the radials, but they're perfect to keep in a travel rig... they sound pretty good and seem durable. I'd put them on par with something like the Whirlwind IMP-2 as far as sound, with a few added features (like a pad). And... they're cheap to replace if they get beaten up.
Great to know Brent, I bought a lot of 5 here off local e-bay for around $17 each...

Re: DI boxes

Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 10:53 pm
by sounddad67
Just my $.02. I have used a couple of different DIs. The Behringers are crap, IMO. Noisy, even with Livewire Elite XLRs plugged into them and the ground lift switch in either position. I had a Livewire that got stolen :cussing: after I'd had it a couple of months. The construction was bulletproof, and it sounded way better than my Behringer. One of the bass players I routinely mix for has a Radial and it is also a rock solid unit. I am looking to add a few of the Radials to my arsenal, AFTER i build my speakers.