Basement Disco System

[BumpyJ]

Hey guys,
I am about to embark on a project with a friend and his wife. They are doing a monstrous renovation to their home and want to build a private nightclub in their
basement for entertaining friends.
I am going to be doing the system and maybe even the lighting for the project. I will be learning a lot as I go. I will provide pics and progress as it happens.
What I want to do is create a system as I have already expressed to Leland that first is crystal clear and has more than enough sensitivity for their needs.
What I have initially thought of building was a pair of DR 250's for up front along with a pair of 18" THT wall loaded or corner loaded if I can do that tastefully.
Along with some zone cabs for pool table area and bar area maybe, this may include another 18"THT simply to smooth out room nodes.
My exp is limited I am in no way claiming I am an expert but LOVE learning and playing and this will be an awesome chance to do both.
If I can provide pics and dimensions and more specific expectations of the owner would any of you guys be open to offering ideas advice maybe a little guidance here and there?

Thanks in advance
Jordy

[LEVLHED]

what are the room dimensions?

[BumpyJ]

Haven't done the measure yet. Will have that shorlty with pics hopefully.

[Bill Fitzmaurice]

DR250 mains are great if you have the skills to build them, otherwise OTop 12s. Do not build THTs for a music system. T39 or T48 will work much better. Only do THT if they want it to double as a home theater.

[BumpyJ]

Thanks for that Bill, there is however the chance that this will be used for HT. There was talk in the early stages to have 2 dedicated systems one for Music and one for HT.
This is something I will need to get clear on with the owner.
Reg the DRs and the build difficulty my GF's brother in law is a talented young general contractor with a lot of wood working exp, I may include him and his skills with this.
If there is room maybe a pair of 24" T48's. I would like to have the extension to at least 40hz even 35hz if we can swing it. Why,, it is just a cool exp to have that content reproduced cleanly when it is present.

[SoundInMotionDJ]

If there is room maybe a pair of 24" T48's.

Unless the basement is >2000sqft, one T48 will still be overkill.

--Stan Graves

[AntonZ]

Reg the DRs and the build difficulty my GF's brother in law is a talented young general contractor with a lot of wood working exp, I may include him and his skills with this.

Sounds great. Do make sure he doesn't try to out-smart the plans. General contractor ways of building will probably be different from what's proposed in the plans. Follow the plans and be a happy man your GF can be proud of. Deviate from the path, it will start raining all day, your car breaks down, your GF will leave you for her best friend and they won't let you watch ( (c) DJPhatman ).

[DJPhatman]

Reg the DRs and the build difficulty my GF's brother in law is a talented young general contractor with a lot of wood working exp, I may include him and his skills with this.

Sounds great. Do make sure he doesn't try to out-smart the plans. General contractor ways of building will probably be different from what's proposed in the plans. Follow the plans and be a happy man your GF can be proud of. Deviate from the path, it will start raining all day, your car breaks down, your GF will leave you for her best friend and they won't let you watch ( (c) DJPhatman ).

Yer' Killin' Me, Anton!

[BumpyJ]

Ok Anton, that was the comic relief I needed to piss my pants on the couch with my GF witnessing it.

[AntonZ]

You just left me wondering: is that a good thing?

[bzb]

Maybe he has that prostate issue and couldn't pee and just needed to giggle like a schoolgirl?

OP: is the room already finished? If not, I got some ideas for ya for the lights to be mounted to the joists in the ceiling.

[BumpyJ]

Room is not finished yet. Going in sometime soon to take the pics and measurements.
Waiting for the creative touch.

[Charles Warwick]

Reg the DRs and the build difficulty my GF's brother in law is a talented young general contractor with a lot of wood working exp, I may include him and his skills with this.

I think a bunch of Pro SLAs would look really cool mounted and styled correctly. I mean I think they look really slick, and they'll be loud, articulate, and be much easier to build. Maybe put 2 up front mounted in the wall with a metal grill as L/R for movies and a curved SLA for center channel, and then put 2 in the back corners of the room hanging from the ceiling and at angle for more coverage and also as a surround option.

You could get a good receiver to power everything for movies, and depending on how loud you want it, it could also be used for the club music. Just set the receiver on Stereo or all-channel-mono and with 4 Pro SLAs and a 100 watts it is definitely going to be loud. Which brings up another question, just how loud do they want it? Like, discoteca loud, or just a loud bar?

The SLAs will serve well if you do want good sound, check out BaronVonSteve's experience with them: http://billfitzmaurice.info/forum/viewt ... s&start=15

Thanks for that Bill, there is however the chance that this will be used for HT. There was talk in the early stages to have 2 dedicated systems one for Music and one for HT. I would like to have the extension to at least 40hz even 35hz if we can swing it. Why, it is just a cool exp to have that content reproduced cleanly when it is present.

If you want to have 30hz you could use a couple of TT's loaded with 10'' drivers or dual 8's. You can get creative; you could use a TTLP, build seating around it (like a bench or a couch), place it near a corner, and *bam* easily hidden bass. It'll sound awesome for music and do movies quite well. At least this way you could use multiples to even out the bass as I'm sure there will be plenty of nodes.

Can we mix TT and TTLP? As long as the path length is the same it's okay, right? So maybe you could do a TTLP as a bench for seating or build it into the bar if you want to be real sneaky , and then a TT as part of a coffee table or a sofa table. This way you could unobtrusively place multiple subs around the room to help even out room nodes. I'd bet that 2 of either dual mcm's/Tang-bands or 10'' driver TT would probably be enough bass for a club.
If a single MCM was enough to get the cops called on me, then I think a total of 4 would be plenty to bring out the fuzz.

[BumpyJ]

Thanks for the input there Charles. It will get played bloody loud at times. I know what these people party like, b/c of this I want lots of headroom with the system.
You have given me some fresh ideas for when I go in for the measure and look around.
Is it true that mixing pro audio with HT can get challenging maybe even tricky?

[Bill Fitzmaurice]

Is it true that mixing pro audio with HT can get challenging maybe even tricky?

Very much so with the electronics. Avoid using pro amps, they cause more problems than they cure and don't work any better than consumer grade gear.