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Re: The journey begins.. 16 T60's and 12 DR280's!!
Posted: Tue May 14, 2013 6:27 pm
by hifibob
Titanium Hand wrote:FairDinkum! You appear to be a speaker building machine. The jigs are brilliant and going to make life so easy for you
I noticed that you have run panel 8 full length of the cab, I'm contemplating doing this myself.
I guess that a permanent installation only requires one pair (dependent upon proposed wiring configuration) of jacks, which is likely determined by the cabs ultimate placement. Where will you mount your jacks?
I'm thinking one pair on panel 9 and a second recessed into panel 10 behind 13. I'm racking my brain regarding aesthetics and functionality.
Looking forward to watching your fleet come together

Thank you Titanium.. I figured since these were for permanent install I would just use a hand truck to get them into place.. Im gonna install the jacks in the rear panel up top in that dead space on the 12 T60's going on the main dancefloor and probably on the access covers for the other 4..
Great job! You're workmanship and attention to detail is second to none.
In the violin making world there's a saying: The first 90% of the build is easy; it's obsessing over the last 10% details that can kill you.
Thanks for the kind words byacey, I have a funny feeling you are right Im brainstorming now on the finishing touches so I have a professional look..Painting the mouth ahead of time to get a perfect finish in there has me at a standstill until the duratex shows up.

Re: The journey begins.. 16 T60's and 12 DR280's!!
Posted: Tue May 14, 2013 6:34 pm
by hifibob
byacey wrote:hifibob wrote: Especially since these came in

Those are great amps, probably some of the best ever built.
Im dying to try these amps out, Bill said go "old iron" so I scored these from the INDIANAPOLIS Colts Dome remodel.. they are heavy as all hell!!!
You are welcome, and thanks for the compliment. Means a lot coming from you, I am far from the "wood working machine" that you appear to be. My toolset is modest and amateur grade, and I work soooooo much slower than you do. Some sexy curved braces you are building there

You could of fooled me it looks great!! These are actually very therapeutic to build at slow pace anyhow.. Although the rac is on to get the rest of theses built.
Re: The journey begins.. 16 T60's and 12 DR280's!!
Posted: Wed May 15, 2013 1:42 am
by Titanium Hand
Those braces, total works of art. I'm intrigued with regards to your method of screwing....
Do those screws go in on an angle, like a skew nail?
The drilling procedure? Do you have a special jig to get your angle right, or is it just freehand with a little help from years of experience?
soo many questions.

Re: The journey begins.. 16 T60's and 12 DR280's!!
Posted: Wed May 15, 2013 3:12 am
by 88h88
Dang that's pretty. Did you say that you'd be making a feature of these in situ?? They certainly don't deserve to be sat in a dark corner when you can crank them out looking like that.
Re: The journey begins.. 16 T60's and 12 DR280's!!
Posted: Wed May 15, 2013 7:25 am
by Bruce Weldy
Titanium Hand wrote:Those braces, total works of art. I'm intrigued with regards to your method of screwing....
Do those screws go in on an angle, like a skew nail?
The drilling procedure? Do you have a special jig to get your angle right, or is it just freehand with a little help from years of experience?
soo many questions.

It's done with a pocket-hole jig. The original and most popular is by Kreg.
http://www.kregtool.com/pocket-hole-jigs-prodlist.html
Re: The journey begins.. 16 T60's and 12 DR280's!!
Posted: Wed May 15, 2013 7:42 am
by Michael Ewald Hansen
Awesome work hifibob - can't wait to see the herd all done!
I might have missed it, but what color are you painting the mouth? If you're lighting them up, white might be a good option instead of duratexing them black? A single layer or two of a thick white primer could be plenty..
Re: The journey begins.. 16 T60's and 12 DR280's!!
Posted: Wed May 15, 2013 8:55 am
by miked
Now is definitely the time to paint the mouths. On the unattached side, just mask off the gluelines...being that you have jigs made already, it should be a relatively simple thing to do. I've never built a T60 but from what I've seen the mouth is definitely a huge PITA to paint. I would probably just go nuts with the spray gun (not spray paint) and shoot a gallon of flat black all up in there.
Re: The journey begins.. 16 T60's and 12 DR280's!!
Posted: Wed May 15, 2013 9:10 am
by 88h88
I crawled inside mine with one of those long handled rollers before the front braces went in. Annoying but doable but then I'm a skinny bastard.
Re: The journey begins.. 16 T60's and 12 DR280's!!
Posted: Wed May 15, 2013 9:58 am
by Ian Westwood
hifibob wrote:
There's a lot to like in this photo. Awesome job!
I think I'll start making mine the same as this from now on... i.e. extending panel 8 so that it meets panel 7. I like that and can't think of any reason why I shouldn't!
Re: The journey begins.. 16 T60's and 12 DR280's!!
Posted: Wed May 15, 2013 10:20 am
by Bill Fitzmaurice
Ian Westwood wrote:
I think I'll start making mine the same as this from now on... i.e. extending panel 8 so that it meets panel 7. I like that and can't think of any reason why I shouldn't!
It takes more wood. If you've got plenty that's OK, but most builders don't buy excess plywood. The one piece braces are slick too, but materials intensive.
Re: The journey begins.. 16 T60's and 12 DR280's!!
Posted: Wed May 15, 2013 10:30 am
by 88h88
Ian Westwood wrote:
I think I'll start making mine the same as this from now on... i.e. extending panel 8 so that it meets panel 7. I like that and can't think of any reason why I shouldn't!
Panel 9's just stupidly convenient to stick a speakon connector or two and run the cable up the 2/8 brace to panel 10 where most people stick the other speakons.
Re: The journey begins.. 16 T60's and 12 DR280's!!
Posted: Wed May 15, 2013 10:44 am
by hifibob
Titanium Hand wrote:Those braces, total works of art. I'm intrigued with regards to your method of screwing....
Do those screws go in on an angle, like a skew nail?
The drilling procedure? Do you have a special jig to get your angle right, or is it just freehand with a little help from years of experience?
soo many questions.

Thanks guys! Titanium I use the exact same Kreg tool Bruce shows.. Comes in handy for a lot different tasks, def worth the money thats for sure..
Dang that's pretty. Did you say that you'd be making a feature of these in situ?? They certainly don't deserve to be sat in a dark corner when you can crank them out looking like that.
Yes I bought some cool RGB led strips that are DMX controllable that im gonna hide in there behind the braces. I was thinking black duratex even though I know white would pop better.. Im gonna experiment with this first cab and see if black will still give me the effect I'm looking for.
Awesome work hifibob - can't wait to see the herd all done!
I might have missed it, but what color are you painting the mouth? If you're lighting them up, white might be a good option instead of duratexing them black? A single layer or two of a thick white primer could be plenty..
A million thank you's guys.. Im gonna do a test run this weekend with the lights and try the black first and if that fails I'll do white..
Now is definitely the time to paint the mouths. On the unattached side, just mask off the gluelines...being that you have jigs made already, it should be a relatively simple thing to do. I've never built a T60 but from what I've seen the mouth is definitely a huge PITA to paint. I would probably just go nuts with the spray gun (not spray paint) and shoot a gallon of flat black all up in there.
I do plan to use my HVLP to at least prime the mouths black since it will be easy to cover all the braces and just incase I miss a few spots with roller and duratex.. What have most of you guys been using for primer? Water or oil base?
I crawled inside mine with one of those long handled rollers before the front braces went in. Annoying but doable but then I'm a skinny bastard.[/quote
lol unfortunately Im at my all time heaviest

Re: The journey begins.. 16 T60's and 12 DR280's!!
Posted: Wed May 15, 2013 10:51 am
by hifibob
Ian Westwood wrote:hifibob wrote:
There's a lot to like in this photo. Awesome job!
I think I'll start making mine the same as this from now on... i.e. extending panel 8 so that it meets panel 7. I like that and can't think of any reason why I shouldn't!
Thanks Ian!! A few thing I can suggest if you do that is to cut the 54* angle into panel 7 instead of 8 since its a lot smaller and easier to handle in sled/jig.. Also I noticed most of my 5x5 BB is easily 1/8-1/4" off on its diagonal measurements so re squaring them will reduce the overall length to 59 1/2" so I think I'll make panel 10 a cap rather an insert to give me the proper 60" length
Re: The journey begins.. 16 T60's and 12 DR280's!!
Posted: Wed May 15, 2013 10:55 am
by miked
Duratex does not like oil based primers. Duratex itself is water-based and can be thinned with water. Just FYI.

Keep up the good work; I really enjoy seeing cabs built w/this degree of skill. Gives me something to shoot for.
Re: The journey begins.. 16 T60's and 12 DR280's!!
Posted: Wed May 15, 2013 11:00 am
by hifibob
Bill Fitzmaurice wrote:Ian Westwood wrote:
I think I'll start making mine the same as this from now on... i.e. extending panel 8 so that it meets panel 7. I like that and can't think of any reason why I shouldn't!
It takes more wood. If you've got plenty that's OK, but most builders don't buy excess plywood. The one piece braces are slick too, but materials intensive.
Im hoping I can use all the scraps in my DR builds.. I hate to waste..