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Re: Scaling way back! Lots of questions
Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 11:05 pm
by Tom Smit
Bill Fitzmaurice wrote: ↑Mon Jul 27, 2020 9:11 pm
SethRocksYou wrote: ↑Mon Jul 27, 2020 7:06 pm
More specifically, the dispersion angle of the mid range. Enclosure width wouldn't matter?
It does. The narrower the enclosure the wider the dispersion. This applies down to the frequency where the enclosure width is one wavelength. At that point dispersion is 180 degrees. Below that you lose axial output, because the dispersion is wider than 180 degrees, so this sword has two edges.
The difference is about 200hz between the OTop8 and the OTop12. I get that. But, I am not understanding what "axial output" is (even after I did a quick search).
Re: Scaling way back! Lots of questions
Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 11:35 pm
by J_Dunavin
Side question on the T48:
If my maximum width for my pack space is 18” should I go with a 15” driver? 18” would be the narrowest, I feel like it’s right on the line and could go with a 12 or a 15, guess a 15 would yield more output.
Re: Scaling way back! Lots of questions
Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2020 12:49 am
by Grant Bunter
G'day Seth

Re: Scaling way back! Lots of questions
Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2020 7:15 am
by Bill Fitzmaurice
Tom Smit wrote: ↑Mon Jul 27, 2020 11:05 pm
I am not understanding what "axial output" is (even after I did a quick search).
The output on a straight line out from the speaker. It falls off below the baffle step frequency, where the baffle is 1 wavelength, as below that the sound wraps around the speaker. It's the same effect as when you go from half space to full space boundary loading.
Re: Scaling way back! Lots of questions
Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2020 4:04 pm
by J_Dunavin
Ok guys it’s official, listed all my speakers and amps for sale here, on eBay, and Marketplace.
AND got my plans for the T48 and Otop 8

Re: Scaling way back! Lots of questions
Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2020 10:16 pm
by Tom Smit
Thanks Bill.
Re: Scaling way back! Lots of questions
Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 6:43 am
by Chris_Allen
J_Dunavin wrote: ↑Tue Jul 28, 2020 4:04 pm
AND got my plans for the T48 and Otop 8
"Scaling way back"
Re: Scaling way back! Lots of questions
Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 9:54 am
by J_Dunavin
Mostly back, ha!
Well if I only had a slim pair of T48s and a pair on Otops8s at least I could fit that in my basement. Currently that’s not an option.
Going back a touch... if 18” was my max width should I go with the 15” driver option?
Re: Scaling way back! Lots of questions
Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:25 am
by Bruce Weldy
J_Dunavin wrote: ↑Thu Jul 30, 2020 9:54 am
Going back a touch... if 18” was my max width should I go with the 15” driver option?
It's right there on page one of the plans.....you can put a 15 in an 18 inch wide cab.
And on the next to the last page of the plans - the voltage limit for the 15s are higher than the limit for the 12s......so yeah, use the 15.
Re: Scaling way back! Lots of questions
Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2020 4:08 pm
by J_Dunavin
Lightweight amplifier recommendations?
Thoughts on the QSC GX amps?
Re: Scaling way back! Lots of questions
Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2020 4:54 pm
by Bruce Weldy
J_Dunavin wrote: ↑Sun Aug 02, 2020 4:08 pm
Lightweight amplifier recommendations?
Thoughts on the QSC GX amps?
GX3 and 5 are not light. GX7 is.....it's an entirely different amp from the other two..
I've always used the Crown XLS series - very light and have served me well. But, the QSC GX7 are really nice amps....I've run those in another rig for several years.
Re: Scaling way back! Lots of questions
Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 4:57 pm
by J_Dunavin
Ok fellas, I had a guy come over this morning for a demo, and we got the cops called on us!!! Most epic!
The cops were totally cool with it all, I should of asked for a picture with them. Oh well maybe next time

Me and my little helper, in the back!
Re: Scaling way back! Lots of questions
Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2020 10:12 pm
by J_Dunavin
price lowered, also sold one pair of DRs
viewtopic.php?f=11&t=25789
Re: Scaling way back! Lots of questions
Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2021 9:00 am
by J_Dunavin
Well the system is sold

time to think about rebuilding

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So we’ve gone over the T48 and a pair of 3015 loaded is probably the best bang dollar per size.
I wonder How four slim T39s would compare loaded with the kappa pro 10lf?
Re: Scaling way back! Lots of questions
Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2021 10:32 am
by Seth
Four 10" loaded (Not the 3010LF, but response should be relatively similar) T39 slims compared to 2 18" T48's @ 2.83v.
(Edit: Changed to 18" T48's after re-reading the thread)
Adding 24dB to the T39 trace for max output, 26.5dB to the T48 for it's max
To my eye, looks like the T39 slim is the better option.