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Re: WH10 build started

Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2017 10:07 am
by Preston
And then installed the grill and front corners

Re: WH10 build started

Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2017 10:08 am
by Preston
Newborns!

Re: WH10 build started

Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2017 10:11 am
by Preston
What's the best way to attach the BFM logo to the grills? I though maybe a little hot glue would work, or just drive a couple small screws through them into the frame?

Re: WH10 build started

Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2017 10:21 am
by Bruce Weldy
Your boxes look very nice.

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Re: WH10 build started

Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2017 3:43 pm
by Grant Bunter
Preston wrote:What's the best way to attach the BFM logo to the grills? I though maybe a little hot glue would work, or just drive a couple small screws through them into the frame?
I attached aluminium plate to my grille, as a surface to mount the logo's to.
See here:
http://billfitzmaurice.info/forum/viewt ... 6&start=45

Re: WH10 build started

Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2017 1:33 pm
by Preston
BTW: Can anybody tell me how a WH8 build compares to WH10? I assume it would be about the same difficulty and time, just with a smaller result?

Re: WH10 build started

Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2017 3:17 pm
by Grant Bunter
Preston wrote:BTW: Can anybody tell me how a WH8 build compares to WH10? I assume it would be about the same difficulty and time, just with a smaller result?
The WH8 isn't designed to handle bottom end, ie kick drum, left hand of keys, and bass. The WH10 can...

Re: WH10 build started

Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2017 4:17 pm
by Preston
Yes, I'm aware of that. As it would happen, I just booked a gig to run sound for a band and they requested 6 wedges. In these situations most people will not actually need the low end, so I'm considering some smaller wedges for my next build. I do have a few powered plastic boxes I can use in the meantime, just looking down the road.

Re: WH10 build started

Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2017 4:57 pm
by Grant Bunter
Preston wrote:Yes, I'm aware of that. As it would happen, I just booked a gig to run sound for a band and they requested 6 wedges. In these situations most people will not actually need the low end, so I'm considering some smaller wedges for my next build. I do have a few powered plastic boxes I can use in the meantime, just looking down the road.
OK. WH8's are fine for vocals, acoustic guitar etc etc. And you're right, bottom end should fill the stage from your subs.
Technically, WH8's and WH10's have differing phase response, which means they may not play well together. The same thing could be said for your WH10's and your plastic boxes.
In real life that may not actually be an issue, or, you could notice some frequency cancellations.

Try your plastic boxes with your WH10's, and, if frequency cancellation does present itself as an issue, then you will need to build all WH10's...

Re: WH10 build started

Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2017 8:41 am
by Preston
Update: I was able to do some testing this weekend. Working outdoors, and with multiple reflective surfaces 20 ft or so and farther away, and a good amount of ambient summertime neighborhood noise. Just wanted to get a feel for what I was working with and rough in a base eq setting. All four WH10 worked perfectly and sound the same. Signal from a computer through Presonus 16.4.2 (no processing), each wedge then with an analogue 31 band graphic and one side of a crown XLS1000. Measurement mic on stand at ear level about where performer will be, DEQ2496 RTA.
I started with white noise and smoothed the response to almost flat, which was basically the inverse of the published response chart. Then I played some music and seasoned to taste. I found that I was rolling off most of the low end. They were sounding pretty good. Then I tried a little live singing (I had a helper). Vocals cut right through and can get loud enough to make one flinch without feedback. I sang through them myself and though they sounded a little "boxy", but I could certainly hear myself and they were clear and articulate. (note: I also set up a T48 + OT12 to use as mains. I figured I should check my limiters and eq for them as well while I was at it.) I'm not sure how other musicians will react to them with the current eq curve. I suspect that initially they will not really like what they hear, but after about 3 songs they will love how easily they can hear themselves. Nevertheless, I think a little EQ tweaking is still in order. They are loud, and the bass response is almost silly. The melded arrays are smooth and not harsh or overly bright. Incredible dispersion. They are not a small box. I did A/B them with the powered wedges I've been using for years. I've always gotten compliments on how the older wedges sounded and the available volume. The WH10's are clearly a step above what I've been using. The first real test will be a couple weeks with a live band. I'll post a review after.