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The sub crawl is more about sound quality than absolute spl.

I know companies claim their amps put out more wattage than they actually do. I'm sure it's less than 300 x 2, but I don't care enough to measure. The subs are plenty loud, and they are only for HT duty. I agree with subharmonic, I'm going for the best quality. If I do anything, it will be a sub crawl, but I don't know if it's even necessary.

Just outta curiosity...how do you have your iNuke setup? What are all of your filter settings currently at?

CLO wrote:I know companies claim their amps put out more wattage than they actually do. I'm sure it's less than 300 x 2, but I don't care enough to measure. The subs are plenty loud, and they are only for HT duty. I agree with subharmonic, I'm going for the best quality. If I do anything, it will be a sub crawl, but I don't know if it's even necessary.

Yes, the 300x2 @ 4 is MAXIMUM output... in one of the manuals (either the main manual itself, the quick-start guide or the sales brochure) Behringer USED to include the RMS figures, but I have just downloaded all 3 of them and it seems they have removed it!!... cheeky b*****ds!! - they are trying to improve their image and then go and do something like that!!! Not cool and more ammo for the Berry haters - the iNukes are good bits of kit, so why hide their real specs just so they can claim ~20% more Wattage? Stupid!

I will dig out the 'real' specs if I can. I think I have a digital copy of the old manual with the RMS figures in them somewhere.

Ok, found it on my phone. NU1000DSP RMS figures (according to Behringer):

Stereo, per channel
110W @ 8Ω
210W @ 4Ω
380W @ 2Ω

Bridge
430W @ 8Ω
750W @ 4Ω

So it should really be the iNuke NU750DSP!

And just checked my version of the web brocure with the current one available for D/L on Berry's site... & yes... they have removed the RMS figures.... WHY??? They are still respectable figures!!

Can't think of an easy way to post the manual here... PM me if you want a copy (it has all the iNuke range's RMS ratings)

escapemcp wrote: And just checked my version of the web brocure with the current one available for D/L on Berry's site... & yes... they have removed the RMS figures.... WHY??? They are still respectable figures!!

...because they're still claiming 1000w @ 4ohm bridged and it obviously falls well short.

88h88 wrote:

escapemcp wrote: And just checked my version of the web brocure with the current one available for D/L on Berry's site... & yes... they have removed the RMS figures.... WHY??? They are still respectable figures!!

...because they're still claiming 1000w @ 4ohm bridged and it obviously falls well short.

what behringer doesn't?

It is a chintzy marketing ploy to advertise "Peak Power" in the product's description. However, the product's real specs are freely available in user manuals or by carefully reading the product's full description. It is incumbent upon an potential purchaser of any product from amps to cars to food to fully know what they are buying before they buy it.

I own a Berry EP4000 and it is a dependable, old-school boat anchor of an amp. However it is frequently advertised at an unbelivable

"2 x 2,000 Watts into 2 ohms; 2 x 1400 Watts into 4 ohms; 4,000 Watts into 4 ohms (bridge mode)" amp.

Careful reading further into the specs shows

Output Power
20Hz–20kHz @ 0.1% THD, both channels driven:
8Ω per channel-550W
4Ω per channel-950W
2Ω per channel-1250W

RMS @ 1% THD (sine wave), bridged mode:
8Ω-1750W
4Ω-2400W

Peak Power, both channels driven:
8Ω per channel-750W
4Ω per channel-1400W
2Ω per channel-2000W

And the real specs come out. Don't be angry with what you bought if you didn't read the specs first.

We'll pick on MF, but other pro audio etailers have similar product copy for the same item: http://www.musiciansfriend.com/pro-audi ... -power-amp

Well, I guess that's one of the great things about a lot of BFM's speaker designs, you don't need a s#!t load of power for them to sound really good. If that amp is only putting out 210w x 2 rms, it's ok to me, they're plenty loud, and only getting better. I'm still tweeking the dsp on the amp.

Radian, I don't have my pc connected to it right now, but next time I do, I'll see what I've got the filters set at.

So, I'm having a problem uploading videos to vimeo all the sudden. Every time I try, there's a message that there's a technical problem on their end, and to try later. I don't know whats happening, but I've been trying to upload for a week now.

What did you end up doing for the rest of your system..your mains and center and all of that?

Sure liked the videos!

Joe

miked wrote:It is a chintzy marketing ploy to advertise "Peak Power" in the product's description. However, the product's real specs are freely available in user manuals or by carefully reading the product's full description.

Not with the iNuke amps for some reason. They used to be quoted as such (from the web brochure):


But recently they have removed the RMS values from even that (and there has never been any mention of these figures in the actual manual or 'quick start guide')! Behringer want to be taken seriously, yet they pull stunts like this. You try finding the RMS values of those amps now on Behringer's web site - they are nowhere to be found. -1000 for Behringer and it's why people don't trust them. A massive fail for the marketing department!

But yeah, 210W into BFM is still way better than most other offerings out there, so you should still be happy C-Lo Looking forward to the vid