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Re: Wedgehorn 8's w/ horn finishing option

Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2015 5:11 pm
by heavybdrums
Bill Fitzmaurice wrote:
heavybdrums wrote: Showing people the value of loaded horns in the current sound reinforcement industry is going to be an uphill battle any way you look at it, seeing as most pros use direct radiators today.
Horns are quite common in the pro-touring genre, where cabs cost upwards of $3k each. You don't see them in the price range where the average DJ/band buys because there aren't any, for the same reason why there are no $15k BMW or Mercedes. :wink:
Thanks for the encouraging words Bill. I recently watched this seemingly knowledgeable/experienced however spaced out guy dis the horn subs as "hardly ever seen anymore" : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwLH7zP6Lwo . However soon i will be hearing these wh8's and other of your designed builds and feel confident, through all the rave reviews of your work on here, as soon as I get some done. Thanks for all your work and help.
heavybdrums wrote:I am having problems making the penn elcom corners fit the odd angles of the WH 8's and thinking of using the rubber feet instead without corners. Suggestions on how to make these 90 degree corners work on the non-90 degree corners of the monitors?
Grant i see many options for cutting the corners to work here..gets me thinking THANKS!!

Re: Wedgehorn 8's w/ horn finishing option

Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2015 6:11 pm
by Bill Fitzmaurice
heavybdrums wrote: I recently watched this seemingly knowledgeable/experienced however spaced out guy dis the horn subs as "hardly ever seen anymore" : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwLH7zP6Lwo .
Note the date of the video. Dave is well known for dissing whatever he doesn't use himself. He dissed line arrays too, until he switched over to them. :roll:

Re: Wedgehorn 8's w/ horn finishing option

Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2015 7:53 pm
by heavybdrums
Bill Fitzmaurice wrote:
heavybdrums wrote: I recently watched this seemingly knowledgeable/experienced however spaced out guy dis the horn subs as "hardly ever seen anymore" : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwLH7zP6Lwo .
Note the date of the video. Dave is well known for dissing whatever he doesn't use himself. He dissed line arrays too, until he switched over to them. :roll:
Ahh..didn't see the date till you pointed it out. Iam going FULL SPEED AHEAD :chainsaw: :chainsaw: :chainsaw: :chainsaw: :chainsaw:
hECK WITH THE DISSERS!! :bash: :bash: :bash: I guess on my part, doing lots of research, bound to hit on something like this. The rest of his info is pretty general (watched about 7 of his vids) and plenty to be learned, but one can't be well informed from one source. And for his part I can sorta understand upholding your gear while bashing others...well sorta.

Re: Wedgehorn 8's w/ horn finishing option

Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2015 7:57 am
by Bill Fitzmaurice
heavybdrums wrote: And for his part I can sorta understand upholding your gear while bashing others...well sorta.
Dave was one of the last converts to line arrays. He had so much money invested in old technology that he held onto it until he couldn't any longer, and that meant bashing the new technology to justify why he hadn't made the switch. Fast forward only a few years and note what's pictured on the front page of his rental site:

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http://ratsound.com/rentals.html

Re: Wedgehorn 8's w/ horn finishing option

Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2015 8:34 am
by heavybdrums
Bill Fitzmaurice wrote:
heavybdrums wrote: And for his part I can sorta understand upholding your gear while bashing others...well sorta.
Dave was one of the last converts to line arrays. He had so much money invested in old technology that he held onto it until he couldn't any longer, and that meant bashing the new technology to justify why he hadn't made the switch. Fast forward only a few years and note what's pictured on the front page of his rental site:

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http://ratsound.com/rentals.html
Ha Ha!! I seee..well that says a lot. i found this material for inside damping of speakers, I'm not going to get it (already assembled cabinets and probably need to use this b4 this point) but thought I'd share and see what you thought of it:https://www.parts-express.com/acry-tech ... l--260-105

Re: Wedgehorn 8's w/ horn finishing option

Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2015 9:03 am
by DJPhatman
Bill Fitzmaurice wrote:i found this material for inside damping of speakers, I'm not going to get it (already assembled cabinets and probably need to use this b4 this point) but thought I'd share and see what you thought of it: https://www.parts-express.com/acry-tech ... l--260-105
The forum discussed Acoust-X some time ago. While it seems worthwhile, the cost (US$0.68 a square foot) it is rather expensive compared to http://www.walmart.com/ip/5-Zone-2-Conv ... r/15581041

Re: Wedgehorn 8's w/ horn finishing option

Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2015 9:44 am
by Bill Fitzmaurice
DJPhatman wrote: The forum discussed Acoust-X some time ago. While it seems worthwhile, the cost (US$0.68 a square foot) it is rather expensive compared to http://www.walmart.com/ip/5-Zone-2-Conv ... r/15581041
No small fraction of an inch thick coating is going to provide the damping that an inch or two of polyester or foam does.

Re: Wedgehorn 8's w/ horn finishing option

Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2015 11:30 am
by heavybdrums
DJ, Bill and Grant, u guys are the shizz thanks for the input. I didn't realize that type of foam mattress top would work thanks for the link and tip I will use it. :hyper:

Re: Wedgehorn 8's w/ horn finishing option

Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2015 4:11 pm
by Grant Bunter
heavybdrums wrote:DJ, Bill and Grant, u guys are the shizz thanks for the input. I didn't realize that type of foam mattress top would work thanks for the link and tip I will use it. :hyper:
Twas Bruce Weldy who put up the pics re making the corners fit. If he hadn't, I would have lol.
Still, you learnt how to get your pics up from me, so I don't feel so bad.

Thanks anyway. Many of us try to help, though it seems my accent gets in the way at times lol...

Re: Wedgehorn 8's w/ horn finishing option

Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2015 8:06 pm
by heavybdrums
Grant Bunter wrote:
heavybdrums wrote:DJ, Bill and Grant, u guys are the shizz thanks for the input. I didn't realize that type of foam mattress top would work thanks for the link and tip I will use it. :hyper:
Twas Bruce Weldy who put up the pics re making the corners fit. If he hadn't, I would have lol.
Still, you learnt how to get your pics up from me, so I don't feel so bad.

Thanks anyway. Many of us try to help, though it seems my accent gets in the way at times lol...
Indeedy Grant and that was helpful and Bruce u rock !! The idea i got from the pics of the corners wound u giving me the idea of just cutting the wings off at a 45 deg so a smallish amount of the rounded over corner is left to sand it's pointy little head off for all the "odd" angled corners.
like this:
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Re: Wedgehorn 8's w/ horn finishing option

Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2015 8:08 pm
by heavybdrums
Hoping the painter in me shows in this very critical sideways light

Re: Wedgehorn 8's w/ horn finishing option

Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2015 8:11 pm
by heavybdrums
However i ran out of the screws used to mount these and only got 11 corners and waiting from speakerhardware about why the handle didn't come in the kit. Mebe they don't come in the kit anymore...

Re: Wedgehorn 8's w/ horn finishing option

Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2015 6:05 am
by LelandCrooks
The corners I probably can't count. The handle I'm sure I sent. Did you send me an email about it?

Re: Wedgehorn 8's w/ horn finishing option

Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2015 4:46 pm
by heavybdrums
LelandCrooks wrote:The corners I probably can't count. The handle I'm sure I sent. Did you send me an email about it?
the corners are fine. I meant to say thanks for sending me an extra corner 10 req. 11 sent. But the handle nada, did send a mail.

Re: Wedgehorn 8's w/ horn finishing option

Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2015 4:49 pm
by heavybdrums
thanks leland for taking care of this handle thing for me ! It's great dealing with a bunch of upright, kind, helpful folks. Dagon It i gotta get a new keyboard for my compy, a few keys are whacked, well..fits the user i guess.