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Re: Snail kick drum?

Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2013 1:19 am
by Charles Jenkinson
Grant Bunter wrote:Didn't realise you are a drummer too Chris...
Oh yea, Chris can drum alright. Check the demo on his youtube channel.

http://www.youtube.com/user/calken99?feature=watch

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Re: Snail kick drum?

Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2013 4:29 am
by Grant Bunter
Charles Jenkinson wrote:
Grant Bunter wrote:Didn't realise you are a drummer too Chris...
Oh yea, Chris can drum alright. Check the demo on his youtube channel.

http://www.youtube.com/user/calken99?feature=watch

:clap:
Oh yes indeedy :clap: :clap:

Re: Snail kick drum?

Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2013 4:56 am
by Grant Bunter
Of course, mp3's aren't allowable uploads.

If anyone is at all interested, I have some of me playing a couple of tunes in Blues style, Help me and Red House.
These were recorded (as a part prize for winning a Blues performer of the year competition in '07) for an EP which was, in the end, never released, but the recordings were licensed.
So they absolutely cannot be shared.
From a drummers perspective, it's simple playing, but that's me :)
PM me...

The songs were recorded with this kit:
http://www.pearldrummersforum.com/showt ... 4-DX/page6
I'm 3pearlkits on the PDF.

My even more vintage kit is also there:
Towards the bottom of the page is restoration pics.
http://www.pearldrummersforum.com/showt ... shed/page4

Re: Snail kick drum?

Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2013 5:06 am
by Chris_Allen
Grant Bunter wrote:From a drummers perspective, it's simple playing, but that's me :)
PM me...
I could never do simple drumming - my timing drifted too much and is was so incredibly obvious! Only after spending an awful lot of time playing drums did I truly appreciate how difficult it is to keep a simple rhythm absolutely rock steady. I knew at that point I would always be a far better guitarist than I ever would be a drummer.

I think it's always important to learn (or try to learn!) another instrument as it makes you a better band member.

Re: Snail kick drum?

Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2013 5:16 am
by Grant Bunter
Understood Chris.
I didn't get to drums until I was 15.
Piano, clarinet and guitar don't blow my cool so much (yes I've learnt all three, but play them all equally poorly), but I cannot stop being a drummer...

Re: Snail kick drum?

Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 5:28 am
by Mr. foxen
Bass drum on a horn you say?

Check out this thing I made: http://www.flickr.com/photos/leadtowill/7610407178/

Didn't actually get a kick beater on it, but hitting it with stuff was pretty loud, might not have been typical drum sound, but I've never heard a 28" kick.

Re: Snail kick drum?

Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 11:07 am
by dswpro
Kick Drum Tricks I've heard of or used:
Trigger a Drum Machine from the drum channels -- This is as old as the original Lynn drum itself. Diana Ross' engineer used to trigger a Lynn drum from direct outputs of his drum channels,. I'm talking kick, snare and tom toms. Can be very embarrassing if not properly setup and only works well in large venues where people cannot hear the acoustic set and PA output together.

Duck the BASS guitar channel by triggering a bass compressor from the kick drum --
Let's your Kick drum punch through the bass guitar. Better on recordings than live IMHO.

Dual Kick drum mic --
Audio-Technica AE2500 is a dual element mic especially nice for kick drums. The condenser element gives you the deep punch while the dynamic element gives you a natural sounding "click".

Speaker as a kick drum microphone
I've seen various home-brew versions of this but I've also used the Yamaha model SKRM100. Basically a 6.5 inch speaker mounted in a 10 inch drum shell and wired as a microphone. Can get you some serious low end pickup.

Re: Snail kick drum?

Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 6:17 pm
by James R
I used to use a Alesis D4 on a drummer I worked with, I just used the signals from the kick and snare.
It worked great in all the rooms we played

Kick Drum Tricks I've heard of or used:
Trigger a Drum Machine from the drum channels -- This is as old as the original Lynn drum itself. Diana Ross' engineer used to trigger a Lynn drum from direct outputs of his drum channels,. I'm talking kick, snare and tom toms. Can be very embarrassing if not properly setup and only works well in large venues where people cannot hear the acoustic set and PA output together.

Duck the BASS guitar channel by triggering a bass compressor from the kick drum --
Let's your Kick drum punch through the bass guitar. Better on recordings than live IMHO.

Dual Kick drum mic --
Audio-Technica AE2500 is a dual element mic especially nice for kick drums. The condenser element gives you the deep punch while the dynamic element gives you a natural sounding "click".

Speaker as a kick drum microphone
I've seen various home-brew versions of this but I've also used the Yamaha model SKRM100. Basically a 6.5 inch speaker mounted in a 10 inch drum shell and wired as a microphone. Can get you some serious low end pickup.

Re: Snail kick drum?

Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 6:30 pm
by Chris_Allen
James R wrote:Duck the BASS guitar channel by triggering a bass compressor from the kick drum --
Let's your Kick drum punch through the bass guitar. Better on recordings than live IMHO.
I found that only worked in certain genres. I've had no end of problems before when the bass drifted into a different band pass than the kick as the ducking was hideously noticeable.

There was a company who had a compressor which only applied the compression to certain frequency ranges to try and negate this issue. I forget the company and the product.