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bzb wrote:With one exception: dubstep. That is a horrible fad that I cannot wait to die off.

Unless you particularly like the sound of robots raping each other, then it's great.

This is what happened when North America got hold of it. 'classic' dubstep was just spades and spades of sub bass, a kick on the 1, snare on the 3 and the most minimal of melodies. It was atmospheric and moody as hell as it was first played in dank, dark weed smoke filled basement clubs in places like Brixton in London.

The 'robot rape' shite came when the genre made its way over the Atlantic.

What the UK were doing with dubstep in 2006:
http://youtu.be/7NKY31AaB-g

A few years later when it started to take off in 2009:
http://youtu.be/69bzdIeKX3w

There's a reason they call stuff like the Excision track above 'brostep'.

88h88 wrote:

bzb wrote:With one exception: dubstep. That is a horrible fad that I cannot wait to die off.

Unless you particularly like the sound of robots raping each other, then it's great.

This is what happened when North America got hold of it. 'classic' dubstep was just spades and spades of sub bass, a kick on the 1, snare on the 3 and the most minimal of melodies. It was atmospheric and moody as hell as it was first played in dank, dark weed smoke filled basement clubs in places like Brixton in London.

The 'robot rape' shite came when the genre made its way over the Atlantic.

What the UK were doing with dubstep in 2006:
http://youtu.be/7NKY31AaB-g

A few years later when it started to take off in 2009:
http://youtu.be/69bzdIeKX3w

There's a reason they call stuff like the Excision track above 'brostep'.

Honestly, I understand why people think a lot of hip hop sounds exactly the same (similar emphasis on lyrics just like complaints about country music), but I have difficulty in feeling out what differentiates track #1 from sub-genres of other EDM like lounge or trance, etc. Some guys have explained it's the BPM, others say it's the samples, but exceptions always abound in EDM.

I definitely got requests for dubstep before I stopped clubbing in 2007 (when my son was born is my reference point)... so it was "popular" enough to make it to the South. As far as Americans ruining dubstep... well... this is 'Murica, we do what we want!

bzb wrote: Honestly, I understand why people think a lot of hip hop sounds exactly the same (similar emphasis on lyrics just like complaints about country music), but I have difficulty in feeling out what differentiates track #1 from sub-genres of other EDM like lounge or trance, etc. Some guys have explained it's the BPM, others say it's the samples, but exceptions always abound in EDM.

Shit there's probably little helping you if you have trouble differing the first track from commercial trance offerings...

Generally(!!) dubstep will be 140bpm (though it sounds like 70bpm due to the kick and snare being 'lazy'). Kick on the 1st beat, snare on the 3rd. If you count 1, 2, 3, 4 along to the beats, 2 and 4 are doing nothing, emphasis is very much on the 1 and 3. Trance and virtually any other 'EDM' track will more than likely be 4 to the floor with kicks on every beat. Also dubstep incorporates a lot of sub bass though 'modern' dubstep from the likes of N. America don't bother. US dubstep also tends to have an awful lot of mid-hi end screeching and other awful noises in it. I'm really not a fan of it, I used to listen to it but it got boring pretty quickly.

Compare the first video I linked with this 'classic' trance. It 'sounds' faster due to the 4 to the floor beat but it'll sit around 130bpm, trance likes synths and often uses vocals. http://youtu.be/Qgx_V0So0qk

I used to love this track but man has it ever dated badly.

88h88 wrote:http://youtu.be/Qgx_V0So0qk

I used to love this track but man has it ever dated badly.

That almost brought a tear to my eye. So many good memories

Brostep aint dubstep. nuff said

I fail to see how people dont like dub step.... Check out hows its made, pretty technical stuff......

BassheadUK wrote:I fail to see how people dont like dub step....

BassheadUK wrote:I fail to see how people dont like dub step.... Check out hows its made, pretty technical stuff......

On a DIY note: If he gets rid of the robot rabbits in that plumbing, the noise should be eliminated.

88: Hey, thanks for trying. Still all sounds the same to me, and I'm pretty well trained Coming from my world, a beatbox track with varying BPM is still hip hop, and an organ fugue is still Baroque.