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Re: The journey begins.. 16 T60's and 12 DR280's!!

Posted: Wed May 08, 2013 8:55 am
by hifibob
miked wrote:This thread certainly has the potential to be one of the most Epic Build Threads ever! NICE shop. I don't know what I'm drooling over more; the panel saw or the Grizzly sliding table saw! Good luck and please keep the pics coming!
thanks Mike.. Im such a DIY at heart, even when I dont really have to be lol.. I def like tools and gadgets too :)

Re: The journey begins.. 16 T60's and 12 DR280's!!

Posted: Wed May 08, 2013 9:57 am
by miked
I do my own work whenever possible. Speakers, car repairs, work on the house...if i can figure it out, why pay someone else to do it? I always feel that no one will care :cry: about your stuff as much as you will.

Re: The journey begins.. 16 T60's and 12 DR280's!!

Posted: Wed May 08, 2013 10:09 am
by Boyd
You may well find that the dados are best on only the first side.

When I built my T48's I thought everything was square until I went to put the last side on :shock: Pipe clamps pulled everything back into line nicely while gluing, but it would have been a PITA if not impossible with dados...

Re: The journey begins.. 16 T60's and 12 DR280's!!

Posted: Wed May 08, 2013 1:36 pm
by jrey762
Make sure you leave an oversize tolerance on the dados (I like 0.050" as a good starting point) to help deal with fluctuations in temperature, humidity, and material variances. Perfect tolerances can often make assembly extremely difficult.

Should be quite a formidable setup when its all done.

Re: The journey begins.. 16 T60's and 12 DR280's!!

Posted: Wed May 08, 2013 5:58 pm
by DJ Higgumz
Subscribed, if you dont want any after you realize you went waay overkill I'm interested :noob:

Re: The journey begins.. 16 T60's and 12 DR280's!!

Posted: Wed May 08, 2013 7:42 pm
by hifibob
Boyd wrote:You may well find that the dados are best on only the first side.

When I built my T48's I thought everything was square until I went to put the last side on :shock: Pipe clamps pulled everything back into line nicely while gluing, but it would have been a PITA if not impossible with dados...
Well the good news is I dry fitted it together with some pins just to see if I could get the dado to line up and maybe I got lucky but it was successful! I do plan to knock the edges of all the panels down to a 45* to help it from getting hung up..
Make sure you leave an oversize tolerance on the dados (I like 0.050" as a good starting point) to help deal with fluctuations in temperature, humidity, and material variances. Perfect tolerances can often make assembly extremely difficult.
I did use a 1/2 Bit for dado which allows a little tolerance for the 12mm ply.. Luckily the BB is extremely straight too.
Subscribed, if you dont want any after you realize you went waay overkill I'm interested :noob:
I hope you are right lol.. That would mean I accomplished what I set out for.. I want to be known as Bostons best system :loler:

Re: The journey begins.. 16 T60's and 12 DR280's!!

Posted: Wed May 08, 2013 7:54 pm
by hifibob
And for progress I didnt really get much done for today accept the 54* jig and a circle jig..

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Re: The journey begins.. 16 T60's and 12 DR280's!!

Posted: Wed May 08, 2013 11:35 pm
by Scott Brochu
hifibob wrote:And for progress I didnt really get much done for today accept the 54* jig and a circle jig..
Slow and steady is the way to go with that many cabinets. :wink:

Re: The journey begins.. 16 T60's and 12 DR280's!!

Posted: Thu May 09, 2013 6:22 pm
by DJ Nada
I have this strange impulse to plan a road trip to Boston in August... You need a guest DJ for a random Saturday night?

Re: The journey begins.. 16 T60's and 12 DR280's!!

Posted: Thu May 09, 2013 7:03 pm
by 67baja
DJ Nada wrote:I have this strange impulse to plan a road trip to Boston in August... You need a guest DJ for a random Saturday night?
Ditto from me. I'd like to go check this system out. Of course I can't DJ or anything, I'd just be JAFO.

Re: The journey begins.. 16 T60's and 12 DR280's!!

Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 6:51 pm
by hifibob
You guys are more than welcome.. please come I'll have a table put aside for you..

I've actually had to work the last few days so not much got done accept this.

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and more wood showed up!! I cleaned my local supplier out!

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Tomrw I'll have it finished up and I'll start the assembly line process.

Re: The journey begins.. 16 T60's and 12 DR280's!!

Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 7:24 pm
by miked
Wow, that looks totally Professional-Grade! Looks like you're using screws for the entire assembly? Was this a dry-fit? I don't see any PL. Unless you're that good....I already know I'm "that sloppy" and if this was my build you'd see the PL from 45 feet away. :loler:

Re: The journey begins.. 16 T60's and 12 DR280's!!

Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 8:09 pm
by hifibob
miked wrote:Wow, that looks totally Professional-Grade! Looks like you're using screws for the entire assembly? Was this a dry-fit? I don't see any PL. Unless you're that good....I already know I'm "that sloppy" and if this was my build you'd see the PL from 45 feet away. :loler:
Thanks Mike.. Good eye, I kinda figured I would be questioned on that lol.. My saws are extremely dialed in to near perfection :D I really took my time getting the cuts on the money since I used this build to make all the jigs to whip these babies out fast and efficiently.. I've never used PL for woodworking but that stuff is messy as hell.. I made a a few test dados just to see how well the Pl works, and that even made a mess.. but I can see why its so popular it will def hide some not so perfect cuts!

Re: The journey begins.. 16 T60's and 12 DR280's!!

Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 11:14 pm
by miked
If you were closer, I'd ask you to come dial in my table saw. I can't tell you how many hours I've spent trying to get the fence perfect; I've lost count. Roughly 75% of the time a cut of any length is dead-straight and even. Sometimes, I'll have a 1/16" difference on say, a board about 3 feet long b/t one end and the other. That margin of error and the "I don't know if the fence is perfect this time" frustrates me to no end. I wax my table and my fence rail, keep sawdust off both so it doesn't interfere with movement, etc. I'm OCD and I know it. :fruit: Possibly, I am to blame...maybe I feed the board a bit crooked? I set up my fence with a digital micrometer for cryin' out loud! But I digress.

No doubt you've got woodworking skills like Bill Gates has hundred dollar bills, but you must use PL when assembling all your cabs! It's messy as hell, sticks to everything like gorilla snot, does not compress easily (typically have to clamp a panel down before nailing/screwing b/c the goop is thick) and is generally a PITA to work with. But it dries like concrete, seals any gap up to about 1/4" (IME) and is just all that and a bag of chips. I've found that the 100-pack of "Nitrile Gloves" from Harbor Freight ($3.99 with coupon) is my best friend when using PL.

The only thing that matters is that the cabs are air-tight; with your skills and PL, you've got a 99.99% chance of that happening. And with just your skills it's only 99.05%. :slap: I'm so jealous. LOL!

Good luck and keep the pics coming.

Re: The journey begins.. 16 T60's and 12 DR280's!!

Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 11:23 pm
by sine143
what type of acts are you going to be featuring at your club?