The journey begins.. 16 T60's and 12 DR280's!!

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Re: The journey begins.. 16 T60's and 12 DR280's!!

#16 Post by hifibob »

miked wrote:This thread certainly has the potential to be one of the most Epic Build Threads ever! NICE shop. I don't know what I'm drooling over more; the panel saw or the Grizzly sliding table saw! Good luck and please keep the pics coming!
thanks Mike.. Im such a DIY at heart, even when I dont really have to be lol.. I def like tools and gadgets too :)

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#17 Post by miked »

I do my own work whenever possible. Speakers, car repairs, work on the house...if i can figure it out, why pay someone else to do it? I always feel that no one will care :cry: about your stuff as much as you will.

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#18 Post by Boyd »

You may well find that the dados are best on only the first side.

When I built my T48's I thought everything was square until I went to put the last side on :shock: Pipe clamps pulled everything back into line nicely while gluing, but it would have been a PITA if not impossible with dados...
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2x Titan 48 18" wide 3012LF loaded
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Re: The journey begins.. 16 T60's and 12 DR280's!!

#19 Post by jrey762 »

Make sure you leave an oversize tolerance on the dados (I like 0.050" as a good starting point) to help deal with fluctuations in temperature, humidity, and material variances. Perfect tolerances can often make assembly extremely difficult.

Should be quite a formidable setup when its all done.

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Re: The journey begins.. 16 T60's and 12 DR280's!!

#20 Post by DJ Higgumz »

Subscribed, if you dont want any after you realize you went waay overkill I'm interested :noob:
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Re: The journey begins.. 16 T60's and 12 DR280's!!

#21 Post by hifibob »

Boyd wrote:You may well find that the dados are best on only the first side.

When I built my T48's I thought everything was square until I went to put the last side on :shock: Pipe clamps pulled everything back into line nicely while gluing, but it would have been a PITA if not impossible with dados...
Well the good news is I dry fitted it together with some pins just to see if I could get the dado to line up and maybe I got lucky but it was successful! I do plan to knock the edges of all the panels down to a 45* to help it from getting hung up..
Make sure you leave an oversize tolerance on the dados (I like 0.050" as a good starting point) to help deal with fluctuations in temperature, humidity, and material variances. Perfect tolerances can often make assembly extremely difficult.
I did use a 1/2 Bit for dado which allows a little tolerance for the 12mm ply.. Luckily the BB is extremely straight too.
Subscribed, if you dont want any after you realize you went waay overkill I'm interested :noob:
I hope you are right lol.. That would mean I accomplished what I set out for.. I want to be known as Bostons best system :loler:

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#22 Post by hifibob »

And for progress I didnt really get much done for today accept the 54* jig and a circle jig..

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Re: The journey begins.. 16 T60's and 12 DR280's!!

#23 Post by Scott Brochu »

hifibob wrote:And for progress I didnt really get much done for today accept the 54* jig and a circle jig..
Slow and steady is the way to go with that many cabinets. :wink:
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Re: The journey begins.. 16 T60's and 12 DR280's!!

#24 Post by DJ Nada »

I have this strange impulse to plan a road trip to Boston in August... You need a guest DJ for a random Saturday night?

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Re: The journey begins.. 16 T60's and 12 DR280's!!

#25 Post by 67baja »

DJ Nada wrote:I have this strange impulse to plan a road trip to Boston in August... You need a guest DJ for a random Saturday night?
Ditto from me. I'd like to go check this system out. Of course I can't DJ or anything, I'd just be JAFO.
2 THTs, 2 TLAH, SLA curved, 1 8-AT, 1 AT JBL 1002D, 4 Otop12s, Jack 12, TT with Eminence 10", 2 SLAs, 1 T30 slim, 2 T30s (2-10" each), SLA Pros, TrT.

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Re: The journey begins.. 16 T60's and 12 DR280's!!

#26 Post by hifibob »

You guys are more than welcome.. please come I'll have a table put aside for you..

I've actually had to work the last few days so not much got done accept this.

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and more wood showed up!! I cleaned my local supplier out!

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Tomrw I'll have it finished up and I'll start the assembly line process.

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Re: The journey begins.. 16 T60's and 12 DR280's!!

#27 Post by miked »

Wow, that looks totally Professional-Grade! Looks like you're using screws for the entire assembly? Was this a dry-fit? I don't see any PL. Unless you're that good....I already know I'm "that sloppy" and if this was my build you'd see the PL from 45 feet away. :loler:

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Re: The journey begins.. 16 T60's and 12 DR280's!!

#28 Post by hifibob »

miked wrote:Wow, that looks totally Professional-Grade! Looks like you're using screws for the entire assembly? Was this a dry-fit? I don't see any PL. Unless you're that good....I already know I'm "that sloppy" and if this was my build you'd see the PL from 45 feet away. :loler:
Thanks Mike.. Good eye, I kinda figured I would be questioned on that lol.. My saws are extremely dialed in to near perfection :D I really took my time getting the cuts on the money since I used this build to make all the jigs to whip these babies out fast and efficiently.. I've never used PL for woodworking but that stuff is messy as hell.. I made a a few test dados just to see how well the Pl works, and that even made a mess.. but I can see why its so popular it will def hide some not so perfect cuts!

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Re: The journey begins.. 16 T60's and 12 DR280's!!

#29 Post by miked »

If you were closer, I'd ask you to come dial in my table saw. I can't tell you how many hours I've spent trying to get the fence perfect; I've lost count. Roughly 75% of the time a cut of any length is dead-straight and even. Sometimes, I'll have a 1/16" difference on say, a board about 3 feet long b/t one end and the other. That margin of error and the "I don't know if the fence is perfect this time" frustrates me to no end. I wax my table and my fence rail, keep sawdust off both so it doesn't interfere with movement, etc. I'm OCD and I know it. :fruit: Possibly, I am to blame...maybe I feed the board a bit crooked? I set up my fence with a digital micrometer for cryin' out loud! But I digress.

No doubt you've got woodworking skills like Bill Gates has hundred dollar bills, but you must use PL when assembling all your cabs! It's messy as hell, sticks to everything like gorilla snot, does not compress easily (typically have to clamp a panel down before nailing/screwing b/c the goop is thick) and is generally a PITA to work with. But it dries like concrete, seals any gap up to about 1/4" (IME) and is just all that and a bag of chips. I've found that the 100-pack of "Nitrile Gloves" from Harbor Freight ($3.99 with coupon) is my best friend when using PL.

The only thing that matters is that the cabs are air-tight; with your skills and PL, you've got a 99.99% chance of that happening. And with just your skills it's only 99.05%. :slap: I'm so jealous. LOL!

Good luck and keep the pics coming.

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Re: The journey begins.. 16 T60's and 12 DR280's!!

#30 Post by sine143 »

what type of acts are you going to be featuring at your club?
Built:
2x Tuba 30s delta12lf loaded (gone)
4x Otop12 d2512 loaded
8x t48s (18, 18, 24, 24, 30, 30) 3015lf loaded
2x AT (1 mcm, 1 gto 804)
2x SLA Pro (dayton pa6, 6 goldwood piezo loaded)
1x bastard XF208

2x OT212 (delta pro 450a loaded, eminence psd)

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