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Re: 36 wide t48 castors and handle mod
Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 1:46 pm
by Mikey
You'll hate the casters on big cabs real quick, especially once you've scarred-up your newly-built cabs going up and down some stairs. A good handtruck with big tires is ABSOLUTELY the way to go, for a lot of reasons.
Re: 36 wide t48 castors and handle mod
Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 8:55 pm
by jjohnson
Bruce Weldy wrote:hilo4noff wrote:Honestly I think my 36 wide titans busted my transport space.
Well all four of them at once sure will. But that got me thinking about the exercise of continually loading and unloading any van and kind of has me leaning toward finding a ramp type small cargo trailer so I can just leave the stuff in there and put it in the garage safe and sound between gigs. It's not like sound equipment has to have the heaviest duty trailer... it's all air.
Lots to consider!
No question that a trailer makes life way easier. Nothing better than packing up after a gig and knowing that you don't have to unpack it when you get home.
+100!
Best decision I made was a 12 foot trailer with a ramp - keeps everything in it and all I have to do is put it right inside of the shop when I'm not using it and pull it out if I need all the room. Before that I was keeping the stuff in the back of the pickup and unloading everytime I wanted to haul anything else.
Re: 36 wide t48 castors and handle mod
Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2011 1:11 am
by basshead
36" inches is where it's at... not over building... these things are light and easy to move with a dolly, no ratchet strap needed just throw your weight back and your good. in my opinion you get alot for just some extra ply wood
Re: 36 wide t48 castors and handle mod
Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 1:19 am
by Steve Regier
A herd of small cabs will perform just as well as a couple of large ones. Speaking as someone who loves large gear my previous statement does not come easily to me. Before I built my herd of T48s and Tubas I used to use dual 21" loaded monsters. My smaller and lighter 24" wide T48s out perform the 21s. I like the size of the 24" wide units. They pack easily and I built them with large corner casters. However, they are about as large a cab as I care to handle. When stacking and V-Plating them they are all i can handle. I can't imagine trying to stack and plate 36" units or try to man-handle them about. 4 slimmer T48s will play just as low and just as loud but will be able to handle more power and be uch easier to move and build. 35" wide panels are a handful during construction. 23" wide panels will also provide better yeild from your wood even if you are building more cabinets.
Re: 36 wide t48 castors and handle mod
Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 10:59 am
by hilo4noff
Yeah as I was figuring up wood, I kind of came to the same conclusion... 35" wide panels eat through 48" wide stock pretty quick. That on top of the easier transport of the 24" width and the efficient use of materials, the 24 width makes a lot of sense. I may do my next pair a little wider down the road or maybe not. When one would be looking at v-plating and stacking the question comes in... Well do I try to haul a 36 wide cab up on top of the 24 or get the 24 clear up to on top of the 36, either way 6 of one or half dozen of the other both routes suck.
And after cobbling together a quick size model of a 36 wide t48 in the garage, it immediately jumped out to me that real casters (two fixed) and (two swiveling and locking) affixed permanently to the side of one of those beasts would be the way to go and just leave it on it's side the whole time. And even better idea would be to not even have to lift them on or off a truck, (imagine ramp) and then leave them stacked with another one on top... and just wheel the stack in where ever it had to go, v-plate it and rock out.
So, the logistics change considerably from the 24's to the 36 inchers and at this point I'm not ready to go used u-haul truck shopping. Trailer maybe!
I am going to build in castors probably on the side and try to find some of that old skate board plastic rail stock that used to be on the bottoms of the skate board. and run two strips up the side the recessed wheels are on to serve the same purpose as the stuff did on the bottoms of our skateboards years ago (take all the abuse) from going up and down curbs and in and out of vehicles instead of scratching up the cab side. So finding it in black will be the key to making them disappear. I think that stuff was just like 1/2 inch by 3/8 inch thick plastic with some holes pre-drilled in them.
Re: 36 wide t48 castors and handle mod
Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 11:44 am
by DJPhatman
hilo4noff wrote:I am going to build in castors probably on the side and try to find some of that old skate board plastic rail stock that used to be on the bottoms of the skate board. and run two strips up the side the recessed wheels are on to serve the same purpose as the stuff did on the bottoms of our skateboards years ago (take all the abuse) from going up and down curbs and in and out of vehicles instead of scratching up the cab side. So finding it in black will be the key to making them disappear. I think that stuff was just like 1/2 inch by 3/8 inch thick plastic with some holes pre-drilled in them.
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Re: 36 wide t48 castors and handle mod
Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2011 7:25 am
by LelandCrooks
http://www.speakerhardware.com/155_cab_ ... wf1550.php
I started out using the skateboard rails, these are better.
Re: 36 wide t48 castors and handle mod
Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2011 8:22 am
by hilo4noff
Yeah, I saw those, at 15.5 inches long they would be perfect for the t16 speakers (if such a thing existed)... Are you using multiple pairs of them to get all the way up the back of your cabinets or just one set down at the bottom in the "curb impact zone"?
Re: 36 wide t48 castors and handle mod
Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2011 9:23 am
by LelandCrooks
Just down at the impact zone.
Here's another alternative I used before these.
http://www.outwatercatalogs.com/lg_disp ... ght/1968bk
PITA for me to handle. Hard to cut, customer had to drill the holes and let it sit or heat it to straighten it out. Tough stuff though.
Re: 36 wide t48 castors and handle mod
Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 8:34 pm
by DJ Higgumz
i have my t39, and it is 30'' wide, and the doors it dont fit in i just turn it sideways, and lift them a little bit n let them slide on the plastic feet. i would advise the plastic feet, with subs this big you want to be able to slide them around for placement. with their weight they don't slide on their own. from vibration.
Re: 36 wide t48 castors and handle mod
Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 10:05 pm
by Dan30
Hey Leland does the right angle handle protrude past panel 9? I was thinking of adding it to the T39 i'm currently building.
Re: 36 wide t48 castors and handle mod
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 8:32 am
by camrynekai
On my T48's I use 4" casters and have them set up so the cabs inter-lock. I can easily move 2 24" wideT48's at the same time. I was hoping to get some photos of them last week @ a gig...but you know how that goes. If I get a chance this weekend Ill unload the trailer and get a few photos...or maybe a video of me unloading and setting up my Titan's.
Re: 36 wide t48 castors and handle mod
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 9:02 am
by LelandCrooks
Dan30 wrote:Hey Leland does the right angle handle protrude past panel 9? I was thinking of adding it to the T39 i'm currently building.
Yes. It's almost exactly the same depth. You have to compensate while building the cab. Either move 9 in a bit, or partition it off. After construction is complete it's almost impossible to install.
Re: 36 wide t48 castors and handle mod
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 3:46 pm
by Dan30
LelandCrooks wrote:Dan30 wrote:Hey Leland does the right angle handle protrude past panel 9? I was thinking of adding it to the T39 i'm currently building.
Yes. It's almost exactly the same depth. You have to compensate while building the cab. Either move 9 in a bit, or partition it off. After construction is complete it's almost impossible to install.
Thanks for the info Leland.