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Re: 01v version?

Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 3:25 pm
by AntonZ
You may want to have a look at SAC as well. Software Audio Console from RML Labs. Allows you to walk the room with a standard laptop and have full control of the mixer through wifi. Great for dialing in monitors, too.

Re: 01v version?

Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 5:57 pm
by leamy_f
Ron K wrote:
TouchOSC works on the iPhone. You need a wireless router, laptop, and a USB-MIDI cable.
Edit: I did a bit more research and found this little beast.

Yamaha UX16 Midi/USB

That's pretty slick. I really didn't think that could be done with the original O1V. This takes that old board to a whole new level. I can fire my monitor guy! Well maybe not he's my brother but it looks like we have a new janitor!
Ron k, are you saying that is possible to controle the older 01v(44.1/48KHz) over a wireless connection?. regards...Frank Leamy

Re: 01v version?

Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 8:37 pm
by bzb
leamy_f wrote:
Ron K wrote:
TouchOSC works on the iPhone. You need a wireless router, laptop, and a USB-MIDI cable.
Edit: I did a bit more research and found this little beast.

Yamaha UX16 Midi/USB

That's pretty slick. I really didn't think that could be done with the original O1V. This takes that old board to a whole new level. I can fire my monitor guy! Well maybe not he's my brother but it looks like we have a new janitor!
Ron k, are you saying that is possible to controle the older 01v(44.1/48KHz) over a wireless connection?. regards...Frank Leamy
Yes, the one in the video I posted on page 1 is the original version (although that's a custom iPad app).

The other methods I've seen are done by iPad using TouchOSC on the iPad. It makes a connection via WiFi to OSCulator which runs on OSX. The computer running OSCulator is connected directly to the 01V via a USB to MIDI cable.

Another method, which I used at the Reality Check gig, was one laptop running the Yamaha software directly connected to the 01V96 via USB. Another laptop ran Remote Desktop and connected to laptop #1 via WiFi.

Re: 01v version?

Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 9:01 pm
by Ron K
I didn't think that was possible either until I dug a little deeper.

Apparently you can use Yamaha's Studio manager as well.

From what I gather it will in fact work with the O1V just it is a bit limited due to the limited number of MIDI channels. If you pick and choose correctly I'm taking that you can make a very functional remote control surface.

I'll be exploring this very shortly so I hopefully will have better answers after I play with it a bit.

BZB has already answered most of these questions in his posts.

My thing is to see how Studio Manager works through a laptop, wireless to an old version O1V.

Re: 01v version?

Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 9:42 pm
by bzb
I can't wait to get mine now :mrgreen:

I'll experiment with the different options and post tutorials/videos with my thoughts as a total noob (come on, I'm just a DJ).

Re: 01v version?

Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 4:03 am
by Dave Non-Zero
I rarely use my o1v as I'm installed in a venue with my ls9 but I'm imagining it would be even easier on the ls9. And since I always have a laptop beside it for playing music I should really look into this more. Just another thing on my to do list I suppose really since it's not an emergency essential like everything else seems to be. I'm building a multi monitor pc at the moment for running club night visuals.
Picked up a couple of second hand quad monitor PCI cards and 4 used monitors and wired it all up last night. Pretty cool! Can't wait to get 4 more monitors! :)

Re: 01v version?

Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 1:53 pm
by leamy_f
Ron K wrote:I didn't think that was possible either until I dug a little deeper.

Apparently you can use Yamaha's Studio manager as well.

From what I gather it will in fact work with the O1V just it is a bit limited due to the limited number of MIDI channels. If you pick and choose correctly I'm taking that you can make a very functional remote control surface.

I'll be exploring this very shortly so I hopefully will have better answers after I play with it a bit.

BZB has already answered most of these questions in his posts.

My thing is to see how Studio Manager works through a laptop, wireless to an old version O1V.
thank you Ron K and BZB, I must admit that I am pretty useless when it comes to connecting computers with this and that ,and even worse when it comes to installing programmes etc to make it all work together. I look forward to any further posts/progress you may make with your endevours in this matter....regards...Frank Leamy

Re: 01v version?

Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 11:30 pm
by CafSentryGnome
what would be interesting is how it would work wit something like this:
http://www.acer.com/iconia/

also would be interesting with SAC

Re: 01v version?

Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 3:54 pm
by DJPhatman
CafSentryGnome wrote:what would be interesting is how it would work wit something like this:
http://www.acer.com/iconia/

also would be interesting with SAC
The Acer should work with Yamaha's software, as lond as you can install the software correctly. That probably has a wireless card built in.

BTW, bzb, look into the Apple Airport Extreme. Built-in USB may solve the 2nd laptop requirement.

Re: 01v version?

Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 5:35 pm
by bzb
DJPhatman wrote:
CafSentryGnome wrote:what would be interesting is how it would work wit something like this:
http://www.acer.com/iconia/

also would be interesting with SAC
The Acer should work with Yamaha's software, as lond as you can install the software correctly. That probably has a wireless card built in.

BTW, bzb, look into the Apple Airport Extreme. Built-in USB may solve the 2nd laptop requirement.
Do you mean the 01V can be connected to directly as a device on the network? That would be pretty sweet, but I'll still need the laptop to control via the iPad - TouchOSC needs a translator.

Re: 01v version?

Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 3:24 pm
by DJPhatman
bzb wrote:Do you mean the 01V can be connected to directly as a device on the network? That would be pretty sweet, but I'll still need the laptop to control via the iPad - TouchOSC needs a translator.
Maybe not, as connecting directly through the rounter's USB port makes a direct connection to your iPad. No different than plugging the iPad directly to the 01V. Should work as long as the connection using the USB-Midi cord from the Airport Extreme works.

Re: 01v version?

Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 3:33 pm
by Ron K
Laptop is not necessary directly connected into the old O1V version as far as I am aware.You can hook the routers USB into the usb/midi adapter that you can buy from Yamaha for around 50.00. Then the Laptop,I phone or I pad can connect to the router via wireless. The only problem that I am aware of is because you are accessing the O1V via Midi in/out you are limited to controlling the O1V with the available number of midi channels so unlike the O1V96 where you have complete control there will be a few missing items within the layers but with careful assignments you can get it fairly flexible.

Now keep in mind I am basing this from the various things I have read on some other forums. I have "yet" to try this myself but that's just around the corner. If and when I complete this successfully I will be sure to report back with details.

Re: 01v version?

Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 9:04 pm
by bzb
Sounds like it may be quite a bit easier just using the laptop remotely. The iPad still needs a laptop to translate the OSCillator software to MIDI commands.

Hopefully I'll have some time this week to test all the different configs out. Depends on whether or not I get some Alpha 6 drivers in this week ;)

Re: 01v version?

Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 12:04 am
by CafSentryGnome
Ron K wrote: as far as I am aware.You can hook the routers USB into the usb/midi adapter that you can buy from Yamaha
normally that wouldn't work. the in this case i would think that both the usb ports on the midi adapter and the router would need to be attached to a computers usb port. i believe the only reason some routers have usb ports is for security, you have to plug in to the USB port to change the config.

but if you know of a router that can do this please share.

Re: 01v version?

Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 11:40 am
by Ron K
CafSentryGnome wrote:
Ron K wrote: as far as I am aware.You can hook the routers USB into the usb/midi adapter that you can buy from Yamaha
normally that wouldn't work. the in this case i would think that both the usb ports on the midi adapter and the router would need to be attached to a computers usb port. i believe the only reason some routers have usb ports is for security, you have to plug in to the USB port to change the config.

but if you know of a router that can do this please share.
http://www.silexamerica.com/products/us ... 000wg.html

Edit: We should probably stop using the word "ROUTER" as actually the device is a wireless "SERVER" but functions as a wireless gateway.

My understanding is this "server/router" can be attached to the usb/midi interface directly into the older O1V. (now I haven't tried it yet but I have extrapolated from the forums that it does indeed work) When the hardware shows up I'll let you know! The questions asked are not answered 100% yes or no but the discussions show this is certainly possible.The back-up plan of course is to park the laptop next to it and run a remote desktop from an I pad touch.

Also Silex offers this SDK

http://www.silexamerica.com/about/press ... lease.html

As it stands right now they are definitely plugging in the USB out of this server/router directly into the O1V96 which has a USB input removing the need for a laptop USB interface. That's very well documented. Since the original O1V is not officially supported by Yamaha with this technology the users are basically experimenting and seeing how far they can push the wireless control setups for the older units.That includes using control manager software which isn't supported by the old O1V either.