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#1351 Post by Rich4349 »

Make sure to bring plenty of bottles for notes, Seth!

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#1352 Post by Seth »

Cool story. Thanks Rich!
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#1353 Post by Charles Jenkinson »

Hello all,

It has been a looong time. August 2020 was the last time, i think.

Very sad to see that Grant has passed - what a loss.

Why am I back? ...Because I have something to say, that perhaps a few may be interested to hear, ...in my experience, not many are, but if it helps just one then great.

My oldest son had his 5th birthday party when I had just finished the J12L's and used them for his party, and then built the T30's for more bass. He will be 17 in August, 😮 and came to me the other day talking about rotary woofers for sub 30Hz effects. ...I knew nothing about them, and thought "I'll see if anyone on 'the forum' says anything about them". ...and no one does. They are very interesting. Loads of DIY scope, and bracing is important. Mechanical integrity seems to be the issue due to the high loading they can generate, and more that the structures they are fixed to may have natural frequencies / resonance within their operating band.

That's not what I was going to say.

I haven't been around because my usage of the speakers / PA died off with the COVID phenomenon - I wasn't playing out and haven't done any gigs. We have only few friends from before COVID, and now know a different bunch of people. ...i was a COVID nay sayer. My family still aren't having any of the journey we have been on, because it has been so extreme and difficult recently. Suffice to say we are not on the mainstream page anymore.

Life changed when I realised I needed to figure out what was going on, and why(?). It's a reset - a global financial reset, using the big C as a pretext, and it's not over yet. So, I set about attempting to learn law (a largely secret domain / privy) and made that my task; also how to get out of the Equity (citizenry's) jurisdiction which creates the apparent systemic obligations on a 'registered person'.

Also, ended up connecting the bible with the law system; Old Testament is common (English) law; the New Testament is the Equity jurisdiction. The bible is the 'revelation of the method' on law, and importantly, law is linked to the financial / wealth system. The debt-credit 'duality' and system of titles / usage ("owner-ship") only belongs to mankind; there is no fictional tradable value outside that which is created as fiction by man.

It's taken the best part of 5 years to figure out how to get out, and we're almost out, so thought I should say 'hi'. Law is a personal journey, but I'll post the key details (Facebook and YouTube links) for anyone interested, and if it's not a goer / permitted, I'll create a standard response and send to anyone by PM who's interested.

I may build some T60's "soon" (I have a couple of spare lab 12's) but other than that, it's just getting on with living, whatever that is, for each one. Music is like law / truth; a life constant, and the sound / frequency must be propagated.

To your highest and best.

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#1354 Post by Bill Fitzmaurice »

With respect to rotary subs, it was a thing many decades ago, when we didn't have the low frequency drivers we've had since the turn of the century. Now they're a curiosity, no more relevant than dial up internet access.

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#1355 Post by Seth »

Charles! Good to hear from you! It definitely sounds like you've gone down an adventurous rabbit hole there, with the whole law/Bible deal. I don't have it in me to dive in with you, but I can't say it doesn't sound fascinating!

I'm really happy to see you back here. Missed you, buddy.
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#1356 Post by Seth »

So, a little update on my adventures...

53' boat procured. I just completed the first journey, 250 miles up the West Coast of California. From Morro Bay, under the Golden Gate Bridge, into San Francisco Bay, and up the Sacramento River into the San Joaquin Delta where I currently live. 2 days and 9 hours. Anchored out and slept one night, took the helm in shifts the other night.

There was no real wind, so we motored/motor sailed the whole way. Ran aground a couple times in the shallow sloughs of the Delta. Mud bottom, so no big deal. Just reversed off the first time and found a way around. Powered through the second time, but sucked weeds and clogged the engine water intake and had to shut 'er down. No sails out, we were still seeing 3.5 knots and were able to maintain steering and control of the boat. Tossed up a little bit of head sail and finished the last 3.5 miles of the slough where we dropped anchor, jumped in, and cleared the intake.

There were a few other little snafu's, like the throttle cable broke at one point. Spare onboard, fixed while underway with a screwdriver stuck in the throttle linkage to keep the revs up.

Also, we tried the voyage a week earlier. But, the transmission fluid leaked out and we had to turn back. Bad input shaft seal. I pulled the engine out 5 times in 6 days before I finally solved the issue. It's been an adventure! More to come!
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#1357 Post by Tom Smit »

Ooowee, nothing like really getting to know your craft!
I see that you have a new starter. Now, because of the starter, I'm thinking that a spare alternator would be good, unless you have a rebuild kit for it.
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#1358 Post by Seth »

You're absolutely right! I did put a new starter on. And good call on the alternator situation too. If you look closely, there are two large frame, 200 amp alternators on the engine. The boat also came with a spare. The amount of spare parts this boat came with is impressive. The first engine pull to replace the transmission input shaft seal... didn't even have to go to the store once. Gasket and seal kit already onboard, as well as the chain-fall hoist, and everything else. I mean, how many projects have I had that didn't require at least 3 runs to the store? None before now, I'd wager. Even that throttle cable that broke... "hey, go look under the bed in the aft cabin".
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#1359 Post by Charles Jenkinson »

Bill Fitzmaurice wrote: Tue Jun 10, 2025 9:10 am With respect to rotary subs, it was a thing many decades ago, when we didn't have the low frequency drivers we've had since the turn of the century. Now they're a curiosity, no more relevant than dial up internet access.
I wondered if there'd be a place for them commercially in cinemas, as a premium experience for sub 20Hz, which itself seems to be the boundary between the audible and the visceral. However, there is already resonance from adjacent screens in multiplex cinemas - it's clear why it may be a no-go in such facilities in proximity to other spaces. Yep, a curiosity.
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Seth wrote: Tue Jun 10, 2025 11:38 am Charles! Good to hear from you! It definitely sounds like you've gone down an adventurous rabbit hole there, with the whole law/Bible deal. I don't have it in me to dive in with you, but I can't say it doesn't sound fascinating!

I'm really happy to see you back here. Missed you, buddy.
That's very kind Seth. And I you, and everyone, and using my PA, ...the bass; missed, that is. 5 years is a long time, and a whole Warren of holes.

I have wanted to do what you're doing at some point and could see financial independence and retirement both; the freedom to choose what I do, as an horizon with no land fall, ever, in sight. That's why I have done it. There isn't enough to go round in the Equity system (where "money" is created) - it pits everyone against each other for the crumbs on the table. Whereas in English law, each one has 'land' under the monarch, in any common law territory - that value is also in the 'private' jurisdiction / aka holy of holies, where the ark (Pandoras box) is (citizens are in the public / outer courts of the temple) ...land is the abstracted value of ones birthright, hence why it is the 'promised land' one is to journey to, and take. A child is born - a ship is berthed. The maritime legak association.

Don't get dragged into this 😄 ... anyone only needs reasonable data, some time and an interest in their own freedom - others have done the hard work at this point. It's the labourers in the vineyard (parable), written for exactly this time / scenario.

I hope I stay, but it has previously been dependent on using what I built or further audio interest / adventures. Maybe there's "enough" - it's probably a totally new path or road / highway that has been forged and I don't know what is on the path yet. Certainly a new name / profile. The old / current name has to go - Abram became Abraham for a reason.

We will see.
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#1361 Post by Bill Fitzmaurice »

Theaters don't go after sub 20 Hz content, not even IMAX. The size and cost of the gear is excessive. For the most part they're content with 30 Hz.

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Seth wrote: Tue Jun 10, 2025 12:00 pm So, a little update on my adventures...

53' boat procured. I just completed the first journey, 250 miles up the West Coast of California. From Morro Bay, under the Golden Gate Bridge, into San Francisco Bay, and up the Sacramento River into the San Joaquin Delta where I currently live. 2 days and 9 hours. Anchored out and slept one night, took the helm in shifts the other night.

There was no real wind, so we motored/motor sailed the whole way. Ran aground a couple times in the shallow sloughs of the Delta. Mud bottom, so no big deal. Just reversed off the first time and found a way around. Powered through the second time, but sucked weeds and clogged the engine water intake and had to shut 'er down. No sails out, we were still seeing 3.5 knots and were able to maintain steering and control of the boat. Tossed up a little bit of head sail and finished the last 3.5 miles of the slough where we dropped anchor, jumped in, and cleared the intake.

There were a few other little snafu's, like the throttle cable broke at one point. Spare onboard, fixed while underway with a screwdriver stuck in the throttle linkage to keep the revs up.

Also, we tried the voyage a week earlier. But, the transmission fluid leaked out and we had to turn back. Bad input shaft seal. I pulled the engine out 5 times in 6 days before I finally solved the issue. It's been an adventure! More to come!
Seth,
As a very long in the tooth retired engineer, (and I think you're probably there already regards this recommendation), when a "transport device" comes with spares the reason is usually due to frequent prior failures. I'd strongly suggest you replenish the parts you have used from the inventory before venturing too far from land. I'm vicariously enjoying your journey, just wish I was young enough to do the same thing.

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#1363 Post by Tom Smit »

+1 to Old Mike's words. Replenish.
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Old Mike wrote: Wed Jun 11, 2025 9:14 pm
Seth,
As a very long in the tooth retired engineer, (and I think you're probably there already regards this recommendation), when a "transport device" comes with spares the reason is usually due to frequent prior failures. I'd strongly suggest you replenish the parts you have used from the inventory before venturing too far from land. I'm vicariously enjoying your journey, just wish I was young enough to do the same thing.
Thanks Mike. Wise words, indeed. While the seller is considerably young at 33, he's owned the boat since he was 20. My read on the situation is, he's taken on the safe route of having spares for anything that that can wear out or run out. Like you're suggesting, my guess is he learned the hard way a time or two. The boat holds 150 gallons of fuel throughout 4 separate fuel tanks, which is a lot if you sail everywhere and can get 5+ mpg at a gallon per hour when you do run the engine. He had 6 kegs with welded in bungs as well as two 30 gallon barrels for additional fuel capacity on board when I bought it. He also insisted we have 10 gallons of motor oil and 10 gallons of transmission fluid prior to making our journey. The boat is 47 years old and it is a boat afterall, there's always going to be something broken. I will definitely follow your wise advise and his lead prior to shoving off into the great blue yonder and carry spares of anything that can wear out or run out. Although, I got rid of the kegs in favor of having a usable dinner table and booth.

I'm happy to hear you're following along and enjoying the journey vicariously. It really is an intention of mine to present the journey in a way that brings the viewer along for the best possible experience as if you are there. I'm still learning how to do that effectively. There were so many things I should have filmed over these past few weeks that I didn't. I'm finding myself spread thin and trying to juggle more balls than I know how. Are you following along just here, or on YouTube too? https://youtube.com/@sailingelsie

Another new development, I've received my first unsolicited donation/contribution to the endeavor through the "buy me a coffee" link on my website. $25 from one of my boat neighbors. It's not really the money, it's more the genuine recognition for how I show up for people in the world and how they see me. Feels really good. I'm completely honored that they would do that. I mean, it was always my intention to have it all be crowd funded. But it's nicer, just for the recognition it represents.

And Mike, I'm honored to have you along for the ride. Thank you. One of my best friends is 76 and disabled from a stroke a few years back. I visit him in the care facility frequently. It means I won't be able to anymore, but I'm doin it for him too. Anyone who can't or otherwise wont do it them selves, I hope you all enjoy the journey.
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#1365 Post by Charles Jenkinson »

The funding matters is why I'm here, blathering on about law and land.

I've seen your video Seth. Everyone out there is on that game with boating and videos.- "like and subscribe". It's too predictable. For all the right reasons, which are that it's all we know because we weren't taught. ...start with re watching the Matrix (film). Move through to John Wick 4 where they discuss "the old laws". ...not that i have a thing for Keanu Reeves - he co-owns a motorbike manufacturer - need one say any more. ...that's what we're talking about, where the wealth is shared between everyone equally, apart from the Equity Jurisdiction which is entirely hierarchy (inequality) based.

Of course you're here (and there) for your neighbour - it cannot be anything else - it's how we're made.
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