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Re: Dual Loaded Table Tuba by a Teenager
Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 10:43 am
by Radian
bassmonster wrote:I assume this is normal, correct?
Yup. That's normal.
bassmonster wrote:I don't recall seeing it in other build threads around here, maybe I haven't been looking close enough.
That's because you're using about 3-4 times more PL than what it takes to do the job. No big deal though. Peace of mind is more important right now.
Re: Dual Loaded Table Tuba by a Teenager
Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 11:09 am
by Bruce Weldy
Jon Barnhardt wrote:
I don't get quite that much coverage. I usually get two coats on about 6-7 omnitops or two coats on about 4 T39's. Depends on how thick you apply it I guess.
Also depends on whether you prime the cabinet with cheap black paint like I do. It costs 15 bucks a gallon and saves on Duratex.
Re: Dual Loaded Table Tuba by a Teenager
Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 11:20 am
by Sydney
Radian wrote:That's because you're using about 3-4 times more PL than what it takes to do the job...
LOL
He hasn't been introduced to joys(?) of glue filleting ( yet ).
Re: Dual Loaded Table Tuba by a Teenager
Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 11:33 am
by bassmonster
Sydney wrote:Radian wrote:That's because you're using about 3-4 times more PL than what it takes to do the job...
LOL
He hasn't been introduced to joys(?) of glue filleting ( yet ).
What is glue filleting? After some googling I found about some form of glue filleting in building a boat.
Thanks for the advice everyone. I'll start using a little less PL from now on, I want to have enough left to put on the last side.

Re: Dual Loaded Table Tuba by a Teenager
Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 12:33 pm
by Sydney

Basically making a curved glue radius on the exterior between the joined surfaces.
The excess glue removed added nothing to the strength of the joint.
I run the caulk gun and push forward into the joint ( with the tip cut diagonally )
After wards I shape a piece of wood to run along the joint or use a fingertip ( covered of course

).
* Your approach may vary
Re: Dual Loaded Table Tuba by a Teenager
Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 5:17 pm
by bassmonster
This is very helpful information, thank you for sharing.
I have about 2/3 a PL tube left. Should I order another? I realize that last panel I did was way too much glue, I won't use as much for the others, but I want enough to be very generous when the last side goes on.
Re: Dual Loaded Table Tuba by a Teenager
Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 5:22 pm
by Sydney
Yer' welcome.
Should I order another?
I suppose I would
rather have a tube on hand than get progress halted for lack of it, but in a pinch I've used
other urethane adhesives.
Re: Dual Loaded Table Tuba by a Teenager
Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 5:44 pm
by Jon Barnhardt
the last panel seems to take way more than you expect...
Re: Dual Loaded Table Tuba by a Teenager
Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 5:55 pm
by bassmonster
I guess I'll order another tube then, better safe than sorry. Three tubes of PL for one TT! Wow.
I'm expecting the last panel to use about 1/4 of a tube of PL, but for me it will probably be closer to 1/3.

Re: Dual Loaded Table Tuba by a Teenager
Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 6:18 pm
by Sydney
I guess I'll order another tube then,
Order?
Are you
sure there isn't a H.D. or Lowes* or other hardware store around Memphis that sells PL?
( Lowes Item #: 100575 Model #: 1335944 )
BTW: I found 3 locations

Re: Dual Loaded Table Tuba by a Teenager
Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 8:05 pm
by bassmonster
Right, there are plenty of Lowes and Home Depots around here, and they sell PL I'm sure. Wrong word usage on my part, "order" vs. "buy".
Re: Dual Loaded Table Tuba by a Teenager
Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 9:53 pm
by subharmonic
Bruce Weldy wrote:Jon Barnhardt wrote:
I don't get quite that much coverage. I usually get two coats on about 6-7 omnitops or two coats on about 4 T39's. Depends on how thick you apply it I guess.
Also depends on whether you prime the cabinet with cheap black paint like I do. It costs 15 bucks a gallon and saves on Duratex.
Bill mentioned before that duratex actually srengthes the wood. I did my DRs bare wood to duratex. Maybe next time I break it out there may have to be some sort of test to see how much it helps all dura vs cheap paint primer
Re: Dual Loaded Table Tuba by a Teenager
Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 11:08 pm
by bassmonster
subharmonic wrote:
Bill mentioned before that duratex actually srengthes the wood. I did my DRs bare wood to duratex. Maybe next time I break it out there may have to be some sort of test to see how much it helps all dura vs cheap paint primer
Bill Fitzmaurice wrote:subharmonic wrote:Also is there any merit to my concerns about prepainting black, thinking that the paint doesn't sink into the wood and hold as good as duratex?
I've always used just DuraTex only, as it strengthens the wood, paint doesn't.
I'll probably do a light coat of black, just to cover up all the ugliness of the filled screw holes. Can I use drywall spackle or wood filler for this instead of Bondo?
Re: Dual Loaded Table Tuba by a Teenager
Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 11:31 pm
by Tom Smit
bassmonster wrote:I guess I'll order another tube then, better safe than sorry. Three tubes of PL for one TT! Wow.
I'm expecting the last panel to use about 1/4 of a tube of PL, but for me it will probably be closer to 1/3.

Yup, better get one more tube since that last side panel is critical. It's a whole lot easier to pile it on all the panel edges and then put the last side on, than to come back and fill in the gaps that were found when leak testing. BTW, before putting on the PL and side panel, dry-fit the side panel, clamp, drill a hole in each corner, drive a headless nail in those drilled holes, remove the side panel and make sure the nails stayed in, apply the PL and then use the headless nails as guide pins when lowering the side panel down for the last time.
Re: Dual Loaded Table Tuba by a Teenager
Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 11:43 pm
by Titanium Hand
Better safe than sorry Bassmonster regarding your exceptionally cautious use of PL! You're probably due for some sort of Harley award for internationally renowned satisfactory use of PL. I Ordered 5 tubes from Leland and used just 3 on my two T39's.
I new I had a safety net so wasn't concerned with overuse, which never eventuated anyway.
Definitely go and purchase an additional tube, you'd hate to get caught without.
Spritzing the joints and PL is a great idea, I followed suit of others and pre-wiped the timber with a damp cloth.
I got my first Police visit today (from excessive noise anyway

) We've had a bad run of rain, given that I decided both my Titans should have the privilege of hanging out in my study. Of course I'm going to try them out even if they are corner loaded in a small 3.5 m x 5m room. Although the sound is somewhat 'choked' its absolutely huge on only the 3rd notch of my xti2000! Shuffling away to some UKF dubstep I notice my girl storm into the room screaming! (I did say notice, I couldn't hear a freakin thing!) The billo's are coming down the driveway she says after turning down the amp at the peak of the drop. I answer the door, in my Pyjama pants only, sweating, red and flustered looking - "Mate you're going to have to turn that down", they said. "Was there a complaint occifer" I say. "Actually there wasn't, we heard it from the street whilst driving past looking for an elderly person gone walkabout and thought it was offensively loud and worth a look" I showed them my set up, they were impressed and left, after considerable index finger waiving and third degree "You should know better" of course!
Its actually an offense in Aus. now to "Cause offensive noise from vehicle / conveyance" there could be a lesson for you BM. Best google your local regulations before you set it off in the Forester
