+1Drey Chennells wrote:Very nice work and documentation. Respect.
DR200 (x4) Build Thread
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Re: DR200 (x4) Build Thread
-2 T48 3015LF
-2 DR250 2510 crossfired
-2 DR250 2510 crossfired
- David Carter
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Re: DR200 (x4) Build Thread
I finally got around to doing something about this great suggestion! Not finished yet, but I got the openings done today. Going to reach inside and do a little painting before installing the tophats so that I can't see bare wood through the port holes anymore.DaveK wrote:The solution to your top-hat dilemma is to get two fixed hats from Leland and mount them in the other two cabs at the balance point. Then you put those on the bottom when stacking straight.
Jig in place and ready for the router...

The hole on left is where the router slipped and went too deep, but it didn't go all the way through, so harm done...

My hole saw wasn't quite deep enough, so I had to go as deep as I could with it, and then I used the jigsaw to finish it off...

Dave
Built:
- Omni 10 (S2010 + piezo array)
- 2 x DR250 (DL II 2510 + melded array)
- 2 x Titan 39 (BP102 - 14"W)
- 2 x Titan 39 (3012LF - 20"W)
- 4 x DR200 (Delta Pro 8B + melded array)
Built:
- Omni 10 (S2010 + piezo array)
- 2 x DR250 (DL II 2510 + melded array)
- 2 x Titan 39 (BP102 - 14"W)
- 2 x Titan 39 (3012LF - 20"W)
- 4 x DR200 (Delta Pro 8B + melded array)
Re: DR200 (x4) Build Thread
I was planning on recessing my tophats, but got kind of nervous about only 1/4" of ply holding all that weight.
I used the plastic corners, so even though the tophats stick out, they stack fine.
I used the plastic corners, so even though the tophats stick out, they stack fine.
Bobby Shively
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Traktor S4 - Vestax VCI-100 - TTX - MOTU Ultralite - Yamaha 01V
Built:
T39 13" BP102, 24" 3012LF - AT - OT12 2512 - SLA Pro - T24 - Jack 10
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Traktor S4 - Vestax VCI-100 - TTX - MOTU Ultralite - Yamaha 01V
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T39 13" BP102, 24" 3012LF - AT - OT12 2512 - SLA Pro - T24 - Jack 10
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Re: DR200 (x4) Build Thread
I will be reinforcing the routed area with a piece of 1/2" ply on the inside of the cab before installing the hats.bzb wrote:I was planning on recessing my tophats, but got kind of nervous about only 1/4" of ply holding all that weight.
Dave
Built:
- Omni 10 (S2010 + piezo array)
- 2 x DR250 (DL II 2510 + melded array)
- 2 x Titan 39 (BP102 - 14"W)
- 2 x Titan 39 (3012LF - 20"W)
- 4 x DR200 (Delta Pro 8B + melded array)
Built:
- Omni 10 (S2010 + piezo array)
- 2 x DR250 (DL II 2510 + melded array)
- 2 x Titan 39 (BP102 - 14"W)
- 2 x Titan 39 (3012LF - 20"W)
- 4 x DR200 (Delta Pro 8B + melded array)
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Re: DR200 (x4) Build Thread
+1David Carter wrote:I will be reinforcing the routed area with a piece of 1/2" ply on the inside of the cab before installing the hats.bzb wrote:I was planning on recessing my tophats, but got kind of nervous about only 1/4" of ply holding all that weight.
I laminated the access door with the top hat. The other side goes into the baffle...and that is about the strongest point on a DR.
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10 T39S + 10 DR200 + 1 T48
Re: DR200 (x4) Build Thread
Good idea. I guess once I put the grills on my OT12s I can do the same.
Bobby Shively
Purveyor of fine aged hip hop
Traktor S4 - Vestax VCI-100 - TTX - MOTU Ultralite - Yamaha 01V
Built:
T39 13" BP102, 24" 3012LF - AT - OT12 2512 - SLA Pro - T24 - Jack 10
Powered by XTi 1000 & 2000
Purveyor of fine aged hip hop
Traktor S4 - Vestax VCI-100 - TTX - MOTU Ultralite - Yamaha 01V
Built:
T39 13" BP102, 24" 3012LF - AT - OT12 2512 - SLA Pro - T24 - Jack 10
Powered by XTi 1000 & 2000
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Re: DR200 (x4) Build Thread
Finished up the tophats. Haven't pole mounted them yet to test, but they should be just fine. Tested for leaks, and all is well. I purposely cut the hole slightly larger than needed in order to allow a little wiggle room in case it wasn't perfectly centered, but I put gasket tape on the underside of the tophat to seal the gap.
Here's one of the access covers laminated with extra layer of 1/2" ply...

And the final result...

Here's one of the access covers laminated with extra layer of 1/2" ply...

And the final result...

Dave
Built:
- Omni 10 (S2010 + piezo array)
- 2 x DR250 (DL II 2510 + melded array)
- 2 x Titan 39 (BP102 - 14"W)
- 2 x Titan 39 (3012LF - 20"W)
- 4 x DR200 (Delta Pro 8B + melded array)
Built:
- Omni 10 (S2010 + piezo array)
- 2 x DR250 (DL II 2510 + melded array)
- 2 x Titan 39 (BP102 - 14"W)
- 2 x Titan 39 (3012LF - 20"W)
- 4 x DR200 (Delta Pro 8B + melded array)
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Re: DR200 (x4) Build Thread
Looks good. Seeing the hat makes me think of stands.
Word of advice that's semi related. Do NOT buy the cheap model dayton speaker stands. I bought a pair a long time ago as a spare set for the rental store and used them last night for the first time. They barely hold a pair of 250's. Scared me to death. I gave them to the band after the show to use for their small light setup.
Word of advice that's semi related. Do NOT buy the cheap model dayton speaker stands. I bought a pair a long time ago as a spare set for the rental store and used them last night for the first time. They barely hold a pair of 250's. Scared me to death. I gave them to the band after the show to use for their small light setup.
If it's too loud, you're even older than me! Like me.
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Re: DR200 (x4) Build Thread
quick question dave. How did you go about rolling your duratex? I've applied coats with a normal foam roller, and the textured one from leland, and mine looks a lot.... "sharper" than yours hahahaha. As in, you could like skin your knee on sharp. I really like the look of those cabs.
Built:
2x Tuba 30s delta12lf loaded (gone)
4x Otop12 d2512 loaded
8x t48s (18, 18, 24, 24, 30, 30) 3015lf loaded
2x AT (1 mcm, 1 gto 804)
2x SLA Pro (dayton pa6, 6 goldwood piezo loaded)
1x bastard XF208
2x OT212 (delta pro 450a loaded, eminence psd)
2x Tuba 30s delta12lf loaded (gone)
4x Otop12 d2512 loaded
8x t48s (18, 18, 24, 24, 30, 30) 3015lf loaded
2x AT (1 mcm, 1 gto 804)
2x SLA Pro (dayton pa6, 6 goldwood piezo loaded)
1x bastard XF208
2x OT212 (delta pro 450a loaded, eminence psd)
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Re: DR200 (x4) Build Thread
I don't know what brand mine are, but I've stacked a pair of DR200's on one of them when testing the adjustable hat, and they seem sturdy. I'll keep my fingers crossed.LelandCrooks wrote:Looks good. Seeing the hat makes me think of stands.
Word of advice that's semi related. Do NOT buy the cheap model dayton speaker stands. I bought a pair a long time ago as a spare set for the rental store and used them last night for the first time. They barely hold a pair of 250's. Scared me to death. I gave them to the band after the show to use for their small light setup.
Dave
Built:
- Omni 10 (S2010 + piezo array)
- 2 x DR250 (DL II 2510 + melded array)
- 2 x Titan 39 (BP102 - 14"W)
- 2 x Titan 39 (3012LF - 20"W)
- 4 x DR200 (Delta Pro 8B + melded array)
Built:
- Omni 10 (S2010 + piezo array)
- 2 x DR250 (DL II 2510 + melded array)
- 2 x Titan 39 (BP102 - 14"W)
- 2 x Titan 39 (3012LF - 20"W)
- 4 x DR200 (Delta Pro 8B + melded array)
- David Carter
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Re: DR200 (x4) Build Thread
I use a regular 3/8" nap paint roller to roll on a coat of flat black acrylic paint as a primer. Then I roll on the Duratex with the textured roller from Acrytech (which Leland now stocks also). One of the things you have to do is roll it on and leave it alone. The more you keep rolling over the stuff that's already been applied, the more you'll end up with a very fine sandpaper-like texture. To get more of the orange peel type texture, you need to roll on a fairly heavy coat and let it be.sine143 wrote:quick question dave. How did you go about rolling your duratex? I've applied coats with a normal foam roller, and the textured one from leland, and mine looks a lot.... "sharper" than yours hahahaha. As in, you could like skin your knee on sharp. I really like the look of those cabs.
Dave
Built:
- Omni 10 (S2010 + piezo array)
- 2 x DR250 (DL II 2510 + melded array)
- 2 x Titan 39 (BP102 - 14"W)
- 2 x Titan 39 (3012LF - 20"W)
- 4 x DR200 (Delta Pro 8B + melded array)
Built:
- Omni 10 (S2010 + piezo array)
- 2 x DR250 (DL II 2510 + melded array)
- 2 x Titan 39 (BP102 - 14"W)
- 2 x Titan 39 (3012LF - 20"W)
- 4 x DR200 (Delta Pro 8B + melded array)
Re: DR200 (x4) Build Thread
That is true.David Carter wrote: One of the things you have to do is roll it on and leave it alone. The more you keep rolling over the stuff that's already been applied, the more you'll end up with a very fine sandpaper-like texture. To get more of the orange peel type texture, you need to roll on a fairly heavy coat and let it be.
Also, if you apply it outside on a hot day in sunlight, it'll dry so fast you almost can't help getting the sandpaper affect on large panels.
Tomorrow I'm going to stop procrastinating - WB
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Re: DR200 (x4) Build Thread
That's exactly what I did with mine - I'll have to post some pictures.
Did you have to notch the back of the driver horn? or are you hats not that deep?
Did you have to notch the back of the driver horn? or are you hats not that deep?
Built:
6xDR200, 2xT39, 2xT48, 2xJack110, 1xOmni10.5, 1xAutotuba, 1xT18, 1xSLA Pro, 1xW8, 1xW10
6xDR200, 2xT39, 2xT48, 2xJack110, 1xOmni10.5, 1xAutotuba, 1xT18, 1xSLA Pro, 1xW8, 1xW10
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Re: DR200 (x4) Build Thread
Nope. They're not that deep. I was afraid I would have to, but it wasn't an issue. I got them from Leland.Chris_Allen wrote:Did you have to notch the back of the driver horn? or are you hats not that deep?
Dave
Built:
- Omni 10 (S2010 + piezo array)
- 2 x DR250 (DL II 2510 + melded array)
- 2 x Titan 39 (BP102 - 14"W)
- 2 x Titan 39 (3012LF - 20"W)
- 4 x DR200 (Delta Pro 8B + melded array)
Built:
- Omni 10 (S2010 + piezo array)
- 2 x DR250 (DL II 2510 + melded array)
- 2 x Titan 39 (BP102 - 14"W)
- 2 x Titan 39 (3012LF - 20"W)
- 4 x DR200 (Delta Pro 8B + melded array)
- Chris_Allen
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Re: DR200 (x4) Build Thread
I repositioned the crossover so I could have one pair of DR200's with hats in both sides - this was so I could stack them using a short piece of 35mm connecting pole.
Built:
6xDR200, 2xT39, 2xT48, 2xJack110, 1xOmni10.5, 1xAutotuba, 1xT18, 1xSLA Pro, 1xW8, 1xW10
6xDR200, 2xT39, 2xT48, 2xJack110, 1xOmni10.5, 1xAutotuba, 1xT18, 1xSLA Pro, 1xW8, 1xW10