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#1 Post by jesuchete »

Has anybody heard of berhriger mixers. I have heard some say they are pretty good. They are said to be mackie knockoffs at a 1/3 of the price. I wanted to use these in our smaller units.

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#2 Post by David Carter »

Most folks around here won't have many good things to say about them, but I've owned a couple of them, and they work just fine. I've never had any problems out of them. Can you do better? Of course. Will it meet the need? It probably depends on what you expect and the amount of abuse it will be subjected to.
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#3 Post by Scott Brochu »

We use one in our current set up and it does the job, and pretty well for it's price but I would like to have other options that are not there on this board.
More monitor channels
XLR signal outs
etc...
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#4 Post by Adam Schaible »

The one's I've heard sound very thin compared to a decent board. The A&H zed are actually good for the money.

Anyway, that's my 2 cents. I have a zed 12 fx for my rental inventory and it's very nice.

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#5 Post by BrentEvans »

They work, but have a high failure rate. I have one that developed a bad channel sitting in a box, and another bad channel with less than a year of use.

Also, I recently reviewed recordings made with the behringer and my previous mackie sr24-4 which bit the dust. There is a marked difference in quality and clarity, the mackie pres are far better, and that board was 15 years older with heavy use.

Check out the small Yamaha boards, great quality and priced between mackie and behringer.
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#6 Post by thijs666 »

I have a DDX3216. It works very well :hyper: . Almost too much possibilities for me to wrap my head around (or I should work with it more often :oops: ). Routing, eq,comp/gate, 16 sub busses, 4 fx channels, 4 aux channel, etc.

Best thing is: a friend of mine knows who designed this thing (AND IT'S NOT BEHRINGER :wink: ) plus they live in the same city as I do. So if anything is wrong, I'll be right at the source 8) .
BTW: mostly their power supplies crap out because of the use of inferior Chinese capacitors in the power supply. They had to cut somewhere :wall: . Exchange them for good ones (hmmm, I still have to do that :slap: ) and it should last forever :cowboy: .

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#7 Post by Scott Brochu »

Where can you get one of these?
GC does not sell that one.
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#8 Post by jesuchete »

I guess my brother's saying `Cheap is expensive` I hate buying stuff twice. I will look into the A&E and the mackie one guy recommended yamaha as good middle of the road mixer along with their amps.

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#9 Post by thijs666 »

Scott Brochu wrote:Where can you get one of these?
GC does not sell that one.
They aren't produced anymore :? . Second hand is your best bet. Look for one with one or two ADT1616 insert cards, so you can expand to 32 channels if you want. Those ADAT expansion cards are pricy when bought separately :broke: .
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#10 Post by bzb »

I have two Behringer mixers, a Mackie, and a Yamaha.

Both Behringer mixers failed. The UB1832 I posted about... it just won't power on anymore. The 19" DJ mixer still works, but the faders are jacked (make noise when you move the channel faders, the cross fader bleeds badly). It's terribly weak, as well - I have to turn everything up to 90-95% of max to get "normal" sound out of it compared to the Mackie and Yamaha mixers. I keep it in the truck as an absolute last resort backup.

The Mackie failed on me during a rock gig. Funny, I'd pounded out 2 years worth of hip hop on it, and it takes a crap on me on one of the only band gigs I've ever done.

The Yammie has been going strong for me for the better part of 3 years.

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#11 Post by kynetx »

I've had four. A 24-track (recording), two 16-tracks (practice rigs) and an 8-track used for gigging. Never had any trouble with any of them. I've also used a lot of other Behringer gear. A bass amp, a bass DI, bass multi-effects, 2x10" bass cab, 2-channel rack compressor, 8-channel rack line mixer (I guess that makes 5 mixers), and few other things I'm sure. Nothing I've had by them has ever failed. Some things have been crappy (the multi-effects for sure) but everything has worked.

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#12 Post by Chris_Allen »

bzb wrote:I have two Behringer mixers, a Mackie, and a Yamaha.
I've had (and mostly still do):

Behringer DDX3216
Behringer UXXXX
Mackie CFX12 (Failed EQ Section)
Yamaha 01V (Failed Something)
Allen & Heath GL2400 (Failed PSU)
Yamaha EMX2000 (Failed PSU)

Behringer has been the most reliable mixer that I have ever owned and the DDX3216 has now been going the longest. I ditched my 01V in favour of the DDX.

Good call on the capacitors - you can replace the op amps too, but they have a higher current draw so you can't replace them all. I would do it but my soldering is limited to piezo arrays!
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#13 Post by more4me »

I have the DDX3216 and it's a neat package with decent effects and gate/compression on each channel. But I'm not too happy withe pre-amps. When doing acoustic guitars and singing it feels like compression. I've been re-checking those settings more than once.
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#14 Post by Paul Norman »

jesuchete wrote:Has anybody heard of berhriger mixers. I have heard some say they are pretty good. They are said to be mackie knockoffs at a 1/3 of the price. I wanted to use these in our smaller units.
I have a Behringer MX9000 which is a 24ch x 8 and have had no trouble with it. The head room is limited so you have to watch your levels closely. It dose'nt sound as good my Crest GTX but it didn't cost near as much either. In fact I have this Behinger for sale now. :wink:

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