gdougherty wrote:I'll be a pair of OT12 shy of your setup when I'm done with my next 8 (only going to keep using 2 of my previous 4) but I'll only have 4 30" T48's. Starting to wonder if 6-8 T48 wouldn't be the better route to go. How easy do your T48's generally run in comparison to the tops?
12 tops and 8 subs seem to make a good combo. I have turned down the subs a little ( on the DBX Drive rack). But it depends on the mix and type of music. Last nite I did a smaller show for a 50's 60's band and ran 4 OT's on each side and one stack of 4 Titans plated. It work well, but that's not like mixing a metal band. I try to get all the info about the show as I can; how many people expected, area to be covered, and type of music and then determind how much gear to use. I have a 22'x8' trailer with all the gear in it and only use what I think it will take. I don't like the roadie part so I like to keep it simple.
I have 6 Omni tops and 2 Titans and I think I would be better served with 4 subs. don't get me wrong, the Titan's sound great but I'm pushing them pretty hard. More Titan's on the pile would have an added benefit of lower response too I think.
Currently running:
Four Titan 48's, Six Omnitop 12's, Two Wedgehorn 10's, Omni12 2-10
Also Built: Omni15 Tallboy, Omni10.5.
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gdougherty wrote:I'll be a pair of OT12 shy of your setup when I'm done with my next 8 (only going to keep using 2 of my previous 4) but I'll only have 4 30" T48's. Starting to wonder if 6-8 T48 wouldn't be the better route to go. How easy do your T48's generally run in comparison to the tops?
12 tops and 8 subs seem to make a good combo. I have turned down the subs a little ( on the DBX Drive rack). But it depends on the mix and type of music. Last nite I did a smaller show for a 50's 60's band and ran 4 OT's on each side and one stack of 4 Titans plated. It work well, but that's not like mixing a metal band. I try to get all the info about the show as I can; how many people expected, area to be covered, and type of music and then determind how much gear to use. I have a 22'x8' trailer with all the gear in it and only use what I think it will take. I don't like the roadie part so I like to keep it simple.
Thanks for the input. I'm not usually mixing metal so the 8X4 setup should probably do well for me.
gdougherty wrote:I'll be a pair of OT12 shy of your setup when I'm done with my next 8 (only going to keep using 2 of my previous 4) but I'll only have 4 30" T48's. Starting to wonder if 6-8 T48 wouldn't be the better route to go. How easy do your T48's generally run in comparison to the tops?
12 tops and 8 subs seem to make a good combo. I have turned down the subs a little ( on the DBX Drive rack). But it depends on the mix and type of music. Last nite I did a smaller show for a 50's 60's band and ran 4 OT's on each side and one stack of 4 Titans plated. It work well, but that's not like mixing a metal band. I try to get all the info about the show as I can; how many people expected, area to be covered, and type of music and then determind how much gear to use. I have a 22'x8' trailer with all the gear in it and only use what I think it will take. I don't like the roadie part so I like to keep it simple.
Paul,
I see you are using the DRPA I have that also, are you using any delay between the tops and subs also wondering where did you crossover at with the Titans.
Thanks,
Jim
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Paul,
I see you are using the DRPA I have that also, are you using any delay between the tops and subs also wondering where did you crossover at with the Titans.
Thanks,
Jim
No delay. Subs go up to 100HZ, at 24db LR. The OT12's won't do to much below 100 HZ.
Paul,
I see you are using the DRPA I have that also, are you using any delay between the tops and subs also wondering where did you crossover at with the Titans.
Thanks,
Jim
No delay. Subs go up to 100HZ, at 24db LR. The OT12's won't do to much below 100 HZ.
Dave Non-Zero wrote:you dont hav the option of 48db slope on the DRPA. Another point in favour ofthe DCX...
Either it's underpowered for what it should be able to do, or dbx decided to unnecessarily hamstring the poor thing to push users into the $300 higher price point.
I think thats exactly what they are doing. Hence the lack of brickwall limiters too, that are only available on higher priced models. And freely configurable inputs/ouputs. and a third input for aux fed subs etc......
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Built and/or own:
8 x T48 24" 3015LF
6 x DR280
2 x DR250 old style beta10
2 x T36s 20" delta15L
1 x TAT
1 x dual Lab12 30" T60
I think that's exactly why they loose a lot of business to Behringer, who make a more flexible product with relative ease of operation for a better price. My guess is successors to the DCX/DEQ will only come after DBX brings more in the Driverack PA price range. They have no other competition near their price point. Bad reputation for DOA's is the only real problem for Behringer.
(or should I say "issue" )
AntonZ wrote:I think that's exactly why they loose a lot of business to Behringer, who make a more flexible product with relative ease of operation for a better price. My guess is successors to the DCX/DEQ will only come after DBX brings more in the Driverack PA price range. They have no other competition near their price point. Bad reputation for DOA's is the only real problem for Behringer.
(or should I say "issue" )
I had a conversation with some support people from dbx after I returned the DriveRack 260 I played with for a week. I highly recommended they look at the interface and feature set of the DEQ/DCX combo for any future units replacing the DRPA or 260. They seemed to think that their product was just fine and that having the software interface as an option to the clunky panel UI was a reasonable solution. I'd love to see a real competitor to the Behringer combo from dbx in a reasonable price range. I'd probably buy one in a heartbeat, but I'm not holding my breath on that one.
AntonZ wrote:I think that's exactly why they loose a lot of business to Behringer, who make a more flexible product with relative ease of operation for a better price. My guess is successors to the DCX/DEQ will only come after DBX brings more in the Driverack PA price range. They have no other competition near their price point. Bad reputation for DOA's is the only real problem for Behringer.
I just wish Behringer would fix their design to be reliable, or someone else would provide a reliable, similar product in the same price range. My rack is about a decade overdue for needing replacement, but I'm afraid that anything I buy is going to be unreliable. Reading reviews on "inexpensive" rack gear, it seems like NOTHING is reliable anymore. How in the hell can a company keep having products returned for the same reason and NOT do something to alleviate that problem? I really like the features of the DCX, but I'm not going to buy a piece of gear that I KNOW to be extremely unreliable.
How in the hell can a company keep having products returned for the same reason and NOT do something to alleviate that problem?.
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so I like to keep it simple.
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