T48 and TH118

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Wylandright206
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T48 and TH118

#1 Post by Wylandright206 »

So I have a unique opportunity to get 8 danley th118s and 4 sh46s in the same burner style warehouse event space as my 8 sub 4 top t48/ot12 system. We are hosting an indoor stage while the danley horns are going outside. I haven't had many opportunities to host multiple stages with other vendors like this so I'm pretty jazzed about it. The other vendor is a good friend of mine and would be totally willing to allow us to measure both systems. Now I know these are non ideal testing conditions, and this is far from any sort of definitive test, but as I said we don't get a whole lot of opportunities like this and it would be enlightening to see, at the least, how these systems measure comparatively. If anyone has any advice on making comparative measurements I would love to hear it. I recently got into REW so I will gladly take any pointers before the show on June 3rd.

Since I last posted I have had the opportunity to work with fairly large danley bc215, danley th118 Yorkville ls1208 rigs and I gotta say, I keep coming back for that t48 goodness. Versatile box that doesn't break my back, gets low when you want it to, and just sounds great. Hell I had a gig last night where a larger vendor brought a nexo line array for the larger stage and by the time the show was about to start they were asking for my resume. Had atleast 10 random audio engineers ask me "what the fuck is that?!?" over the course of the night 😆😆 people trying to look for serial numbers and logos LOL. Still 3 years after buying all these fantastic horns we are learning and unlocking more from them. Thanks bill.

I've attached pics from the gig last night, 6 T48S loaded 3 ft from the wall crossed at 90hz (parking blocks in the way), and 4 otops, left right stereo and mono side fills. Coverage was unbelievable. There was not a bad seat in the whole parking lot. Zero detectable cancellations despite being surrounded by walls on 3 sides.
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9x 24" T48 3015LF loaded
1x 24" T48 15SW2000 loaded
2x v1 OT12 F151M/2012s loaded
4X v2 OT12 F151M/WAN123.00 loaded

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Kudos on the gig.
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#3 Post by Seth »

Wyland, I wanna say I think this is the first time I've seen a photo of your setup without the subs out front and center. Happy to see the more "technically correct" setup this time around. I bet you had more than a couple people ask you why you had the subs facing away from the crowd. I love that you got so technical about the setup to account for the lower crossover frequency due to the parking stones limiting placement. Have you ever set them up with a v-plate? Might have allowed you to put the stack closer to the wall with the parking stone in the open V.

By the way, I really enjoy your gig reports. Please keep them coming!
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#4 Post by Radian »

+1 to the setup / arrangement. :clap: Yeeeaaaahh buddy! :twisted:
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#5 Post by danieljw »

How was the bass ?
6 x T48 wall loaded would have been pretty epic

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#6 Post by Wylandright206 »

The fire Marshall asked why the subs were backwards. He probably thought we were stupid😆. Jokes on him the fire station was 1 block away 😆. I actually saved my REW measurements from after tuning. This was taken from about 5 meters back, front and center. No additive EQ on the sub, 30hz(24db/bw)- 90hz (30db/bw) roughly -3db 1.2q bell at 50hz, with separate autoeq channels for all the tops. This many subs loaded into the wall measured fabulously without any EQ but that extra fine tuning really pushed things over the edge. This was a very bass heavy tuning I will admit 😏 whoops my bad. But I actually have an onboarding session scheduled with that larger production company on friday so I guess you could say that went well 😆. Will keep y'all posted about the gig on the 3rd.
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9x 24" T48 3015LF loaded
1x 24" T48 15SW2000 loaded
2x v1 OT12 F151M/2012s loaded
4X v2 OT12 F151M/WAN123.00 loaded

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#7 Post by Wylandright206 »

Well, I'm here with an update. Unfortunately I was behind schedule and was not able to take final measurements of our system or the danleys. We initially loaded the subs into the corner but it genuinely felt like it was going to knock the building over. I accidently ran my first sub sweep a little hot and I thought the wall was gonna cave in. The entire wall was flexing violently it was insane. I'm actually pretty shocked it didn't blow the windows out. We had to move the subs last minute to front and center, so I did atleast try, however the headroom was absolutely unnecessary. We had absolutely zero issue keeping up with the danleys. According to a third party (a different danley user [bc215/sm60]) the difference in quality between the systems came down to track quality. Genuinely couldn't pick a winner. Both systems absolutely shined and I will say that was the best sounding event we have had in Seattle in a very long time. We had a pair of ot12s firing onto the dancefloor with tilt boards, and 2 per side stuck up in the catwalk, with 8 t48s front and center. This configuration managed to cover this entire space flawlessly front to back. Mind you this is the largest building I have ever worked in by 3 or 4 times. It is a literal hangar on the train tracks, functioning crane and everything. I know the beam in front of the ot12s in the catwalk is less than ideal but I seemed to have forgotten my other tilt boards so we did what we had to do with what we had. All in all I say we did good considering that other system costs multiple times what I paid for mine, uses 5 more elements per top, and uses bigger subwoofer drivers and weighs a lot more. Its not every day I get to basically cab for cab with one of the best all around subs on the market, but I am deeply grateful I was given the opportunity. Enjoy some photos of this absolutely ridiculous warehouse. It reminded me of printworks 😆
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9x 24" T48 3015LF loaded
1x 24" T48 15SW2000 loaded
2x v1 OT12 F151M/2012s loaded
4X v2 OT12 F151M/WAN123.00 loaded

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#8 Post by Wylandright206 »

After this gig we decided to name the system, bangley sound labs 😆
9x 24" T48 3015LF loaded
1x 24" T48 15SW2000 loaded
2x v1 OT12 F151M/2012s loaded
4X v2 OT12 F151M/WAN123.00 loaded

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