
Small world
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Small world
I was talking to a guy tonight about buying a PA system that I recently picked up. He lives about 6 hours away. Mentioned I had built my PA.....he said he had built some subs last year...Tuba 60s.."have you ever heard of those?"


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Re: Small world
Did you tell him that becuase of all that talk about T60's that you'd now also heard about EDM and Dubstep?
Couldn't have anyone thinking you're behind the times Bruce, lol...
Couldn't have anyone thinking you're behind the times Bruce, lol...
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Re: Small world
Honestly? If that's what today's music is.....I'm very happy to be behind the times....or behind the door, or the curtain....Grant Bunter wrote:Did you tell him that becuase of all that talk about T60's that you'd now also heard about EDM and Dubstep?
Couldn't have anyone thinking you're behind the times Bruce, lol...

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Re: Small world
Bruce Weldy wrote:
Honestly? If that's what today's music is.....I'm very happy to be behind the times....or behind the door, or the curtain....

Built:
DR 250: x 2 melded array, 2x CD horn, March 2012 plans.
T39's: 4 x 20" KL3010LF , 2 x 28" 3012LF.
WH8: x 6 with melded array wired series/parallel.
Bunter's Audio and Lighting "like"s would be most appreciated...
DR 250: x 2 melded array, 2x CD horn, March 2012 plans.
T39's: 4 x 20" KL3010LF , 2 x 28" 3012LF.
WH8: x 6 with melded array wired series/parallel.
Bunter's Audio and Lighting "like"s would be most appreciated...
Re: Small world
It's not. EDM, the kind everyone today is familiar with, is two and half decades in the making.Bruce Weldy wrote:
Honestly? If that's what today's music is.....I'm very happy to be behind the times....or behind the door, or the curtain....
Dub step, the saw-synth "transformer" kind, is almost a decade old as well.
Today's music is arguably everything.

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Re: Small world
Radian wrote:It's not. EDM, the kind everyone today is familiar with, is two and half decades in the making.Bruce Weldy wrote:
Honestly? If that's what today's music is.....I'm very happy to be behind the times....or behind the door, or the curtain....
Dub step, the saw-synth "transformer" kind, is almost a decade old as well.
Today's music is arguably everything.Anyone with a cell phone and data plan can punch in almost whatever they desire to listen to or have suggested to them.
Oh, I know....I just don't like that stuff. I like music created on instruments instead of computers....yeah, I know know there are a lot of keyboards involved in some of it.....
Obviously, I'm in the minority as we play some of this stuff on breaks for the country band I do sound for (yeah, I said country band) .... and the dance floor fills up.
Oh well, my folks thought the Beatles were the ruination of America.
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Re: Small world
How 'bout pushing some ELP through a pair of T60s.....
Or Rush.
Or Styx.
A little low for my Titans, but I'll do it the next time I'm set up.
Awesome bass is not new!
Oh, and I know what you're talking about with the country music: A band I work with regularly does honky-tonk. I joke with them every time that I have to go home and run sine through my gear just to clean them out.
Or Rush.
Or Styx.
A little low for my Titans, but I'll do it the next time I'm set up.
Awesome bass is not new!

Oh, and I know what you're talking about with the country music: A band I work with regularly does honky-tonk. I joke with them every time that I have to go home and run sine through my gear just to clean them out.

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Re: Small world
Actually, those 70s albums don't have much bass content at all. However, several have been remastered and sound great - The Yes Album is an example....amazing how much better is sounds with content under 100hz.draehn wrote:How 'bout pushing some ELP through a pair of T60s.....
Or Rush.
Or Styx.
A little low for my Titans, but I'll do it the next time I'm set up.
Awesome bass is not new!
Oh, and I know what you're talking about with the country music: A band I work with regularly does honky-tonk. I joke with them every time that I have to go home and run sine through my gear just to clean them out.
I love country music. Even though I have a Blues and Rock band, I'll gladly take the Tele and do four hours of Merle and George any day. Of course, most everything labeled country today is just rock ballads with a fiddle and a twangy singer.
I did a one-off country gig a few weeks ago - because I knew the band was playing mostly that kind of stuff, I took the ES335 and pretty much played major key southern rock leads all night. I did get a few straight country tunes though.
I guess I like any music that I can see the talent of the creation on display.
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Re: Small world
draehn wrote: I joke with them every time that I have to go home and run sine through my gear just to clean them out.



Built:
17" width 10" driver Autotuba
2 x 29" width dual Lab12 Tuba60
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2 x DR250 2510/asd1001
For best results, point the loud end of the array towards the audience
17" width 10" driver Autotuba
2 x 29" width dual Lab12 Tuba60
6 x DR250 2510/asd1001
In progress:
2 x DR250 2510/asd1001
For best results, point the loud end of the array towards the audience
Re: Small world
Bruce, sorry for high jacking the thread earlier.
It's really cool that you met another fellow in the know .
I have yet to meet anyone familiar with Bill's stuff outside of the online community.
Plenty of interest though...especially once they experience that "tactile" sound.

I have yet to meet anyone familiar with Bill's stuff outside of the online community.

Plenty of interest though...especially once they experience that "tactile" sound.
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Re: Small world
Good point Bruce. Old recordings did not have bass. Had a promoter all over me at a New Years gig because the guns and roses bootleg mp3s she gave me to play were nothing but hiss.
Interesting how rap music (bass oriented) changed the way music sounded for the better with more full range mixing. Kick drum frequencies that use to be at 100 are now all supported at 60 as well in order to compete with what is being played in the clubs.
Interesting how rap music (bass oriented) changed the way music sounded for the better with more full range mixing. Kick drum frequencies that use to be at 100 are now all supported at 60 as well in order to compete with what is being played in the clubs.
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Re: Small world
It is a point of fact that in the process of going from tape to vinyl a generous high pass was invoked to keep the needle from jumping out of the groove. Some studios were far too generous in that. Remasters have given some reconciliation.
Sorry about the hijack.
Onward, there don't seem to be any BFM practitioners in my area either...
Sorry about the hijack.
Onward, there don't seem to be any BFM practitioners in my area either...
BFM rig:
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Other:
56 box Electrotec LabQ rig
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6 OT12
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Re: Small world
Forum member Marcbass is in the same state as me.
He's only 635 miles/1024K's away.
11 hours away.
I don't think there's another BFM owner/user any closer than that to me.
Bruce is only 8580 miles/13814K's away. Apparently I could be there in 17 hours lol...
He's only 635 miles/1024K's away.
11 hours away.
I don't think there's another BFM owner/user any closer than that to me.
Bruce is only 8580 miles/13814K's away. Apparently I could be there in 17 hours lol...
Built:
DR 250: x 2 melded array, 2x CD horn, March 2012 plans.
T39's: 4 x 20" KL3010LF , 2 x 28" 3012LF.
WH8: x 6 with melded array wired series/parallel.
Bunter's Audio and Lighting "like"s would be most appreciated...
DR 250: x 2 melded array, 2x CD horn, March 2012 plans.
T39's: 4 x 20" KL3010LF , 2 x 28" 3012LF.
WH8: x 6 with melded array wired series/parallel.
Bunter's Audio and Lighting "like"s would be most appreciated...
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Re: Small world
Hey fellas.....no hijack here. It was just an information post anyway. I don't mind talking about other things...
I'm lucky that I have a BFMer living just 15 minutes away (MikeD) with ) OT12s and T48s. And there's another one about a hour away that I bought a direct box from.
The guy that I started this thread about is driving six hours (one way) next weekend to buy some gear from me. So, I'll get to meet another one face to face.
One day, maybe Grant will jump on a plane and come to Texas......It's a lot like Australia...except our rats don't have pouches and jump a lot.
I'm lucky that I have a BFMer living just 15 minutes away (MikeD) with ) OT12s and T48s. And there's another one about a hour away that I bought a direct box from.
The guy that I started this thread about is driving six hours (one way) next weekend to buy some gear from me. So, I'll get to meet another one face to face.
One day, maybe Grant will jump on a plane and come to Texas......It's a lot like Australia...except our rats don't have pouches and jump a lot.
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Re: Small world
And straight back into "Small World" lol.One day, maybe Grant will jump on a plane and come to Texas......It's a lot like Australia...except our rats don't have pouches and jump a lot.
A fella was telling me just this morning that when the Dutch first landed on the west coast of what is now Australia, they decided to head straight back, one of the issues being the "oversized rats".
Of course they had just seen Kangaroos for the first time.
For those who don't know;
Our National coat of arms has both the Emu and the Kangaroo on it. Neither can take a backward step...
Built:
DR 250: x 2 melded array, 2x CD horn, March 2012 plans.
T39's: 4 x 20" KL3010LF , 2 x 28" 3012LF.
WH8: x 6 with melded array wired series/parallel.
Bunter's Audio and Lighting "like"s would be most appreciated...
DR 250: x 2 melded array, 2x CD horn, March 2012 plans.
T39's: 4 x 20" KL3010LF , 2 x 28" 3012LF.
WH8: x 6 with melded array wired series/parallel.
Bunter's Audio and Lighting "like"s would be most appreciated...