Saw it. I suspect Harley did, too, and that's what got us thinking about the subject. I can't remember if you included the comparison chart. If you did, I apologize for the duplication.sine143 wrote:you guys must have all missed the thread where I was talking about using W10s as dedicated tops....
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I'm fairly sure I did, but I dont remember. I believe the general consensus was that the DR280 > W10 as a top, with similar box size. The w10 takes a lot more eq to act as a top as well.
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The DR should be a better box since it has a longer horn. J112 and W10 are a much closer comparison since they have a similar horn length.sine143 wrote:I'm fairly sure I did, but I dont remember. I believe the general consensus was that the DR280 > W10 as a top, with similar box size. The w10 takes a lot more eq to act as a top as well.
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Can you add a THT Lab15 18" vs 24" chart? The Lab 15 is in the plans but no chart.
Thanks
Dan
Can you add a THT Lab15 18" vs 24" chart? The Lab 15 is in the plans but no chart.
Thanks
Dan
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Hi Dan,subharmonic wrote:Can you add a THT Lab15 18" vs 24" chart? The Lab 15 is in the plans but no chart.
I've had a good look round but I can't find a copy of the chart to sample.
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Okay, thanks for trying.
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There is no chart for a LAB 15 in a 24" THT because it's not a recommended use. LAB 15 is only specified for 18-20" widths.subharmonic wrote:Chris
Can you add a THT Lab15 18" vs 24" chart? The Lab 15 is in the plans but no chart.
Thanks
Dan
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Bill,Bill Fitzmaurice wrote:There is no chart for a LAB 15 in a 24" THT because it's not a recommended use. LAB 15 is only specified for 18-20" widths.
Is there a chart for the THT Lab 15 18"? It is not in my plans nor can I find it anywhere. I am not trying to

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It's similar to the 24" but with the lower corner frequency at 28Hz instead of 25Hz. In a 30" width the Fc is at 22Hz.subharmonic wrote:
Is there a chart for the THT Lab 15 18"?
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Thanks for the reply Bill. What driver loaded 24" are you referring to? I found charts on the Lab 12 and Tempest 15, from the charts I am assuming it is the Admire 15Bill Fitzmaurice wrote:It's similar to the 24" but with the lower corner frequency at 28Hz instead of 25Hz.
I am not sure what this means. Can anyone help me understand this? ThanksBill Fitzmaurice wrote:In a 30" width the Fc is at 22Hz.
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Was lookin at stuff on here and accidentally posted
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Anybody?subharmonic wrote:Thanks for the reply Bill. What driver loaded 24" are you referring to? I found charts on the Lab 12 and Tempest 15, from the charts I am assuming it is the Admire 15Bill Fitzmaurice wrote:It's similar to the 24" but with the lower corner frequency at 28Hz instead of 25Hz.
I am not sure what this means. Can anyone help me understand this? ThanksBill Fitzmaurice wrote:In a 30" width the Fc is at 22Hz.

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The corner frequency is just what the term implies, the frequency where response falls off and the chart trace turns a corner.
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Chris, could you please add the 3012LF T30 in 16", 27", and 30" widths? They're all in the SPL Charts section.
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Sure:Mikey wrote:Chris, could you please add the 3012LF T30 in 16", 27", and 30" widths? They're all in the SPL Charts section.
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[spl]T30W16D3012LF,T30W27D3012LF,T30W27D3012LFX2,T30W30D3012LF&dbmin=80&dbmax=110&fmax=200[/spl]
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[spl]T30W16D3012LF,T30W16D2010& dbmin=80&dbmax=110&fmax=200&dbmark=89.5,92&fmark=35,50[/spl]
Checked Bill's charts and the 2010 does provide a 2.5dB advantage between 35 and 55 Hz.
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