What's to chat about?
Re: What's to chat about?
Thanks, Seth. I put the hardware and grills in today. They're looking very sweet. The first time I use these at a gig the patrons are gonna shudder at how mean they look. I can't wait for another local band to ask, "WTH are those? And why are they so AWESOME?!"
That's how it goes in my head anyway.
That's how it goes in my head anyway.
Otop 12 x 4 (Delta Pro 12-450a) 2x melded, 2x straight
Titan 39 x 4 (3012LF) 20" wide
Titan 39 x 4 (3012LF) 20" wide
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Re: What's to chat about?
First they will ask, "Those 18s?" No.... "15s" No...... at that point they are totally confused because they can't even imagine a 12 in a sub.....most likely they'll say, "21s???"Bryan Cox wrote: ↑Tue Jan 21, 2020 6:39 pm Thanks, Seth. I put the hardware and grills in today. They're looking very sweet. The first time I use these at a gig the patrons are gonna shudder at how mean they look. I can't wait for another local band to ask, "WTH are those? And why are they so AWESOME?!"
That's how it goes in my head anyway.
That's when you just grin and tell 'em the truth....
6 - T39 3012LF
4 - OT12 2512
1 - T24
1 - SLA Pro
2 - XF210
"A system with a few knobs set up by someone who knows what they are doing is always better than one with a lot of knobs set up by someone who doesn't."
Re: What's to chat about?
That'll be fun!Bruce Weldy wrote: ↑Tue Jan 21, 2020 11:55 pmFirst they will ask, "Those 18s?" No.... "15s" No...... at that point they are totally confused because they can't even imagine a 12 in a sub.....most likely they'll say, "21s???"Bryan Cox wrote: ↑Tue Jan 21, 2020 6:39 pm Thanks, Seth. I put the hardware and grills in today. They're looking very sweet. The first time I use these at a gig the patrons are gonna shudder at how mean they look. I can't wait for another local band to ask, "WTH are those? And why are they so AWESOME?!"
That's how it goes in my head anyway.
That's when you just grin and tell 'em the truth....
Otop 12 x 4 (Delta Pro 12-450a) 2x melded, 2x straight
Titan 39 x 4 (3012LF) 20" wide
Titan 39 x 4 (3012LF) 20" wide
Re: What's to chat about?
They: "Wow man. That's unbelievable. Like, how many watts?"Bruce Weldy wrote: ↑Tue Jan 21, 2020 11:55 pm First they will ask, "Those 18s?" No.... "15s" No...... at that point they are totally confused because they can't even imagine a 12 in a sub.....most likely they'll say, "21s???"
That's when you just grin and tell 'em the truth....
Bryan: "About 1200"
They: "Okay. I suppose that makes more sense then. 1200 watts each, 4800 total. Sounds really good man"
Bryan: ...
(I don't know why, but, the voice of "They" sounds like Tommy Chong in my head)
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Two 2x6 shorty SLA Pro's
One T39, 16", 3012LF loaded
Tall AutoTuba, 20" wide, 2x 8" MCM 55-2421
TruckTuba, 8½" wide, 2x 8" MCM 55-2421
Two 2x6 shorty SLA Pro's
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Re: What's to chat about?
It's Bryan, Sith.
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2xT30
Words&graphics - Audio&Acoustics - Hardware&DSP; 3 different paradigms.
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Words&graphics - Audio&Acoustics - Hardware&DSP; 3 different paradigms.
Re: What's to chat about?
Thanks for pointing that out Charles
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Two 2x6 shorty SLA Pro's
One T39, 16", 3012LF loaded
Tall AutoTuba, 20" wide, 2x 8" MCM 55-2421
TruckTuba, 8½" wide, 2x 8" MCM 55-2421
Two 2x6 shorty SLA Pro's
One T39, 16", 3012LF loaded
Tall AutoTuba, 20" wide, 2x 8" MCM 55-2421
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Re: What's to chat about?
You're welcome.
I took a screen shot before you edited it. Do you want me to post it for context...?
I took a screen shot before you edited it. Do you want me to post it for context...?
2xJ12L (3012HO) switchable/melded
2xT30
Words&graphics - Audio&Acoustics - Hardware&DSP; 3 different paradigms.
2xT30
Words&graphics - Audio&Acoustics - Hardware&DSP; 3 different paradigms.
Re: What's to chat about?
No need.
I misspelled Bryan's name. Twice.
I misspelled Bryan's name. Twice.
Build in process - 2 WH6, one Alpha 6a loaded, one PRV Audio 6MB250-NDY loaded
Two 2x6 shorty SLA Pro's
One T39, 16", 3012LF loaded
Tall AutoTuba, 20" wide, 2x 8" MCM 55-2421
TruckTuba, 8½" wide, 2x 8" MCM 55-2421
Two 2x6 shorty SLA Pro's
One T39, 16", 3012LF loaded
Tall AutoTuba, 20" wide, 2x 8" MCM 55-2421
TruckTuba, 8½" wide, 2x 8" MCM 55-2421
Re: What's to chat about?
Seems traditional model airplane cement has gone the way of model airplanes. I remember drooling over them as a kid every time we went to the local drug store, which had a little section of model cars and airplanes. Bought a few over the years. NEVER actually finished one. So anyways, I was looking at possible substitutes for model cement and came across a few interesting options for gluing up piezo array's.
First up, and most interesting IMO, Starbond KBL-500 Black Medium Thick, Premium Rubber Toughened CA Glue... Black super glue with impact and shock absorbance qualities. Sounds ideal.
https://smile.amazon.com/Starbond-KBL-5 ... B00BUVAVC0
3M Scotch-Weld Plastic & Rubber Instant Adhesive PR100, Clear... there's a primer that can be used in combination with the glue which enhances the bond with difficult to bond plastics
Glue https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B071JC9RP7/ ... GUGNNI9JV3
Primer https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B071JC9PYP/ ... 4XG9V2MX7H
Loctite has a similar product, 2 component "activator" and glue. Very reasonable price.
https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B000Y3LHXW/ ... RN5M53XCYM
JB Weld Plastic Bonder... looks like a more traditional 2 part epoxy kinda product
https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B01IBOK7FE/ ... 12WPW3XD9K
What have you guys used? Any recommendations, or recommend to avoid?
First up, and most interesting IMO, Starbond KBL-500 Black Medium Thick, Premium Rubber Toughened CA Glue... Black super glue with impact and shock absorbance qualities. Sounds ideal.
https://smile.amazon.com/Starbond-KBL-5 ... B00BUVAVC0
3M Scotch-Weld Plastic & Rubber Instant Adhesive PR100, Clear... there's a primer that can be used in combination with the glue which enhances the bond with difficult to bond plastics
Glue https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B071JC9RP7/ ... GUGNNI9JV3
Primer https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B071JC9PYP/ ... 4XG9V2MX7H
Loctite has a similar product, 2 component "activator" and glue. Very reasonable price.
https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B000Y3LHXW/ ... RN5M53XCYM
JB Weld Plastic Bonder... looks like a more traditional 2 part epoxy kinda product
https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B01IBOK7FE/ ... 12WPW3XD9K
What have you guys used? Any recommendations, or recommend to avoid?
Build in process - 2 WH6, one Alpha 6a loaded, one PRV Audio 6MB250-NDY loaded
Two 2x6 shorty SLA Pro's
One T39, 16", 3012LF loaded
Tall AutoTuba, 20" wide, 2x 8" MCM 55-2421
TruckTuba, 8½" wide, 2x 8" MCM 55-2421
Two 2x6 shorty SLA Pro's
One T39, 16", 3012LF loaded
Tall AutoTuba, 20" wide, 2x 8" MCM 55-2421
TruckTuba, 8½" wide, 2x 8" MCM 55-2421
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Re: What's to chat about?
I tried testors model cement when I put together my piezo arrays. Utter failure (like a cow jumping over a barbed wire fence...or is that an udder failure?) Ended up using PVC pipe cement, thickened up with my tweeter cutoffs just like Bill said in the plans, and it worked well. I put on an extra gloppy coat and laid in some of the long cutoff pieces on the backside which yielded a really rigid array. I think there may be a picture in my build thread somewhere.
2xT30 (20", 3012LF)
2xT30 (21", 3012LF)
4xOtop J-array (Beta12, melded/straight piezos)
Truck Tuba (MCM)
Next up: 2xJack12 or family of table tubas
2xT30 (21", 3012LF)
4xOtop J-array (Beta12, melded/straight piezos)
Truck Tuba (MCM)
Next up: 2xJack12 or family of table tubas
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Re: What's to chat about?
Just buy this from Leland...
https://www.speakerhardware.com/abs-glue.php
https://www.speakerhardware.com/abs-glue.php
6 - T39 3012LF
4 - OT12 2512
1 - T24
1 - SLA Pro
2 - XF210
"A system with a few knobs set up by someone who knows what they are doing is always better than one with a lot of knobs set up by someone who doesn't."
Re: What's to chat about?
Heck, that's handy. Have you used it? Any comments on it's handling? Set up time, finish appearance, sand-ability?Bruce Weldy wrote: ↑Wed Jan 22, 2020 8:26 pm Just buy this from Leland...
https://www.speakerhardware.com/abs-glue.php
Build in process - 2 WH6, one Alpha 6a loaded, one PRV Audio 6MB250-NDY loaded
Two 2x6 shorty SLA Pro's
One T39, 16", 3012LF loaded
Tall AutoTuba, 20" wide, 2x 8" MCM 55-2421
TruckTuba, 8½" wide, 2x 8" MCM 55-2421
Two 2x6 shorty SLA Pro's
One T39, 16", 3012LF loaded
Tall AutoTuba, 20" wide, 2x 8" MCM 55-2421
TruckTuba, 8½" wide, 2x 8" MCM 55-2421
Re: What's to chat about?
And paint-ability?
Build in process - 2 WH6, one Alpha 6a loaded, one PRV Audio 6MB250-NDY loaded
Two 2x6 shorty SLA Pro's
One T39, 16", 3012LF loaded
Tall AutoTuba, 20" wide, 2x 8" MCM 55-2421
TruckTuba, 8½" wide, 2x 8" MCM 55-2421
Two 2x6 shorty SLA Pro's
One T39, 16", 3012LF loaded
Tall AutoTuba, 20" wide, 2x 8" MCM 55-2421
TruckTuba, 8½" wide, 2x 8" MCM 55-2421
Re: What's to chat about?
Happens all the time, man. No worries.
BTW, they're gonna really crap themselves when they find out I'm running all four subs on ONE 450 watt @ 8 ohm amp.
Otop 12 x 4 (Delta Pro 12-450a) 2x melded, 2x straight
Titan 39 x 4 (3012LF) 20" wide
Titan 39 x 4 (3012LF) 20" wide
Re: What's to chat about?
What amp make/model are you going to use?
Build in process - 2 WH6, one Alpha 6a loaded, one PRV Audio 6MB250-NDY loaded
Two 2x6 shorty SLA Pro's
One T39, 16", 3012LF loaded
Tall AutoTuba, 20" wide, 2x 8" MCM 55-2421
TruckTuba, 8½" wide, 2x 8" MCM 55-2421
Two 2x6 shorty SLA Pro's
One T39, 16", 3012LF loaded
Tall AutoTuba, 20" wide, 2x 8" MCM 55-2421
TruckTuba, 8½" wide, 2x 8" MCM 55-2421