Church Organ speakers need to replace!!!
Church Organ speakers need to replace!!!
Hello and HELP,
I am currently working on a set of TLAH PROs for my church as well as plans for 2 t39 subs and 2 sets of SLAs for the choir and overflow seating and the Pastor asked what could be done for our Organ sound. I told him I would pose the question to the forum and hope for a solution. the current speakers for our Allen Organ are 2 sets (of 2) of the allen hc-15u which looks like something I had in college 40 years ago. A 15" woofer 4" mid and 1" tweeter 3 way cabinet with a bass port with a 98db sensativity and frequency range of 30 to 20k. the cabs are too large( 17" deep) for the new location and after 12 years are a little hammered and need to go in favor of something better. What would you recommend for the application that I can propose to the church asap as the reno of the sanctuary is underway as we type. Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
I am currently working on a set of TLAH PROs for my church as well as plans for 2 t39 subs and 2 sets of SLAs for the choir and overflow seating and the Pastor asked what could be done for our Organ sound. I told him I would pose the question to the forum and hope for a solution. the current speakers for our Allen Organ are 2 sets (of 2) of the allen hc-15u which looks like something I had in college 40 years ago. A 15" woofer 4" mid and 1" tweeter 3 way cabinet with a bass port with a 98db sensativity and frequency range of 30 to 20k. the cabs are too large( 17" deep) for the new location and after 12 years are a little hammered and need to go in favor of something better. What would you recommend for the application that I can propose to the church asap as the reno of the sanctuary is underway as we type. Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
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Re: Church Organ speakers need to replace!!!
DI the organ into the sound system. If there's no line level out, use a direct box with a pad. It'll sound better than it ever has. Make sure to give the organist a monitor.
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Re: Church Organ speakers need to replace!!!
If you do lows on the organ, you might want to consider the T48 instead.
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Sooner or later, I'll piece all of the suggestions together. So far, I have settled on the TLAH PROs for the mains, I am going to use 2 sets of SLAs for the choir loft and an overflow area (with delay). I am building two wedgewood 6s for the organ and piano monitors. It has been suggested that I build a T39 sub, or a T48 for deeper bass (dont know yet if the T48 can be built to fit in the 18"+ space under the Chancel stage. I bought the T39 plans and was going to use the lab 12, but don't know if the T48 can be built in that width yet. ?? Not sure if 1 or two T39's are needed or maybe 1 T48??. Lastly it has been suggested that I use the mains and sub for both vocals and the electric organ. if so, how much amp do I need and can I power the sub from the amp or do I need a separate amp? Sorry for all the questions, but I figured I better ask the pros.
Thanks
Joe
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Re: Church Organ speakers need to replace!!!
barrajoe wrote:Sooner or later, I'll piece all of the suggestions together. So far, I have settled on the TLAH PROs for the mains, I am going to use 2 sets of SLAs for the choir loft and an overflow area (with delay).
I am building two wedgewood 6s for the organ and piano monitors. It has been suggested that I build a T39 sub, or a T48 for deeper bass (dont know yet if the T48 can be built to fit in the 18"+ space under the Chancel stage. Pp
I bought the T39 plans and was going to use the lab 12, but don't know if the T48 can be built in that width yet. ?? Not sure if 1 or two T39's are needed or maybe 1 T48??.
Lastly it has been suggested that I use the mains and sub for both vocals and the electric organ. if so, how much amp do I need and can I power the sub from the amp or do I need a separate amp? Sorry for all the questions, but I figured I better ask the pros.
Thanks
Joe
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Re: Church Organ speakers need to replace!!!
You need an amp channel for each set of cabs. You might need more than 1 channel to control levels but not for stereo.
Careful with under stage subs. You get a big cancellation from the rear wall unless it's a deep stage.
18" rings a bell as minimum width for t48.
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Careful with under stage subs. You get a big cancellation from the rear wall unless it's a deep stage.
18" rings a bell as minimum width for t48.
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Re: Church Organ speakers need to replace!!!
Already asked in another thread.barrajoe wrote:Sooner or later, I'll piece all of the suggestions together. So far, I have settled on the TLAH PROs for the mains, I am going to use 2 sets of SLAs for the choir loft and an overflow area (with delay). I am building two wedgewood 6s for the organ and piano monitors. It has been suggested that I build a T39 sub, or a T48 for deeper bass (dont know yet if the T48 can be built to fit in the 18"+ space under the Chancel stage. I bought the T39 plans and was going to use the lab 12, but don't know if the T48 can be built in that width yet. ?? Not sure if 1 or two T39's are needed or maybe 1 T48??. Lastly it has been suggested that I use the mains and sub for both vocals and the electric organ. if so, how much amp do I need and can I power the sub from the amp or do I need a separate amp? Sorry for all the questions, but I figured I better ask the pros.
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Joe
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Re: Church Organ speakers need to replace!!!
DI the organ? I have a Leslie at church, thank you very much! The only decent sounding thing in that room!
Re: Church Organ speakers need to replace!!!
I would want something that could go down to at least 20hz for church organ music, like T60 perhaps? There is a "presence" below 30 hz, if neither really heard nor felt.
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Re: Church Organ speakers need to replace!!!
That depends on the organ. Some do, some don't. Usually the ones that do don't have the speaker system to support it.ryan222h wrote:I would want something that could go down to at least 20hz for church organ music, like T60 perhaps? There is a "presence" below 30 hz, if neither really heard nor felt.
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Re: Church Organ speakers need to replace!!!
With a 12" driver, the T48 can be built as small as 15". I have personally built a 16", Lab12 loaded T48.18" rings a bell as minimum width for t48.