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#1 Post by Rich4349 » Sat Mar 25, 2017 10:19 am

Is this a total joke, or something worth investigating? The pricepoint is a bit high to merit serious interest, but the specs *ssem* comparable to the Labgruppen model.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/BRAND-NEW-FP100 ... 2162573779
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#2 Post by Bruce Weldy » Sat Mar 25, 2017 11:15 am

Rich4349 wrote:Is this a total joke, or something worth investigating? The pricepoint is a bit high to merit serious interest, but the specs *ssem* comparable to the Labgruppen model.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/BRAND-NEW-FP100 ... 2162573779
Not a joke, just a fraud.

You notice that they call it "our FP10000Q"? No brand name anywhere. Chinese knock off right down to listing the exact same specs as the real deal......(except for one...and that one matches the Ashley)

I'm sure Lab Gruppen is out looking for these guys to shut 'em down.

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#3 Post by Bill Fitzmaurice » Sat Mar 25, 2017 11:19 am

You can find Chinese knockoffs of anything. For instance:
http://www.made-in-china.com/multi-sear ... ker/1.html

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#4 Post by dswpro » Sat Mar 25, 2017 2:32 pm

alibaba.com and aliexpress.com have similar or the same stuff. Are they "knock-offs" or is it the real factory going into business for themselves after hours and barely re-labeling the items? I have a friend who swears his new Chinese line arrays and 4 channel power amps are the real deal. I can attest they sound every bit as good as the brand they look like, and he had his company logos placed on the speakers, amps, covers and road cases. Of course you have to pay freight from China and they take weeks to arrive, and I don't know what your remedies are if you don't get your merchandise, but he's rolling with a 16K$ PA system that would have run 50K$+ with a name brand on it.

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#5 Post by DJPhatman » Sat Mar 25, 2017 2:46 pm

The Chinese knock-off problems are quality control, quality control and quality control. The name-brand companies, like Harmon Kardon, QSC, Lab Gruppon, etc. almost always have their representatives performing QC checks, all along the assembly and finish times. The Chinese knock-offs do not. Their goal is to produce them as quickly as possible and sell them. While they claim long warranties, there are no service centers outside of mainland China. Good luck enforcing the warranty. :roll:
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#6 Post by CoronaOperator » Sat Mar 25, 2017 3:01 pm

dswpro wrote:, but he's rolling with a 16K$ PA system that would have run 50K$+ with a name brand on it.
Me too! :hyper: :hyper:
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#7 Post by Bill Fitzmaurice » Sat Mar 25, 2017 3:58 pm

dswpro wrote: is it the real factory going into business for themselves after hours and barely re-labeling the items?
The 'real factory' wouldn't take that chance for fear of losing their contract. Knock-offs look like the real deal, but you'd have to go inside them to see if the resemblance is more than skin deep.

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#8 Post by David Raehn » Sat Mar 25, 2017 7:18 pm

These have been wrung out and tested elsewhere:

http://www.avsforum.com/forum/155-diy-s ... fiers.html

I just have a tough time trusting them enough to employ on a paying gig....

I own a few Inukes and am beginning to trust them... a little.

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#9 Post by Mkulu » Sun Mar 26, 2017 2:04 pm

Rich4349 wrote:Is this a total joke, or something worth investigating? The pricepoint is a bit high to merit serious interest, but the specs *ssem* comparable to the Labgruppen model.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/BRAND-NEW-FP100 ... 2162573779
No trust Chinese Junk, even the components are a fraud. They will not last long.
Sure Electronics are a trustworthy source but their stuff is over priced.

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#10 Post by Bill Fitzmaurice » Sun Mar 26, 2017 2:19 pm

Mkulu wrote: No trust Chinese Junk, even the components are a fraud. They will not last long.
Virtually every component used by every electronics manufacturer comes from Asia, most from China. That includes the device you used to place your post. I have no respect for the Chinese government that does not enforce patents and copyrights, but that's a political issue.

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#11 Post by 88h88 » Tue Mar 28, 2017 6:16 am

I have a book called 'Poorly Made in China' which offers insight into how they do business over there. It's full on shady.
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