New Amp's for 4-DR250's & 4-T39's
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New Amp's for 4-DR250's & 4-T39's
DR250's are both flat and melded arrays DeltaII loaded and the T39's are Lab12 loaded.
I am looking at the Crown XTI4002 for sub duty and the XTI2002 for the tops.
Looking for confirmation that I am making the right amp choice's before I pull the trigger.
Thanks for your time,
I am looking at the Crown XTI4002 for sub duty and the XTI2002 for the tops.
Looking for confirmation that I am making the right amp choice's before I pull the trigger.
Thanks for your time,
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4-25" Lab12 loaded T39's
2-DR250's Melded array
2-DR250's Flat array
4-25" Lab12 loaded T39's
2-DR250's Melded array
2-DR250's Flat array
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Re: New Amp's for 4-DR250's & 4-T39's
That's plenty of amp for those. If you want to save some bucks, you could go with an XLS2500 for the tops - plenty of power for 4 tops, plus lighter and cheaper than the xti.
But, you can't go wrong with those amps.
But, you can't go wrong with those amps.
6 - T39 3012LF
4 - OT12 2512
1 - T24
1 - SLA Pro
2 - XF210
"A system with a few knobs set up by someone who knows what they are doing is always better than one with a lot of knobs set up by someone who doesn't."
Re: New Amp's for 4-DR250's & 4-T39's
Those are the exact amps I have been using for years. Plenty of headroom and processing works.
4 20" T39(built)
2 WH8(built)
3 WH10(own)
4 DR200(own)
1 Jack 12(built)
SAC 24 Channel Mixer
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Re: New Amp's for 4-DR250's & 4-T39's
Thanks for the reply guys. I'm about to be $1700 poorer but the will have shinny new amps.
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4-25" Lab12 loaded T39's
2-DR250's Melded array
2-DR250's Flat array
4-25" Lab12 loaded T39's
2-DR250's Melded array
2-DR250's Flat array
Re: New Amp's for 4-DR250's & 4-T39's
How about IPR2 2000 for tops and IPR2 3000 for subs? $900
2X OTop 112, 3012HO, melded - 2X T39, 27", Lab 12 - XF 212 - 4 DR250, 2 melded, 2 straight
2 20" T39 3012LF - WH10 - WH8 - in the shop - 2 more 20" T39s
http://saltandlighteureka.org still need a trailer
2 20" T39 3012LF - WH10 - WH8 - in the shop - 2 more 20" T39s
http://saltandlighteureka.org still need a trailer
Re: New Amp's for 4-DR250's & 4-T39's
+1. While the Crowns are good, they are very pricey. I have 1st gen XTi's.ripNdeb wrote:How about IPR2 2000 for tops and IPR2 3000 for subs? $900
I know money often seals the deal, but seriously, quality is an investment, not an expense... Grant Bunter
Accept the fact that airtight and well-braced are more important than pretty on the inside. Bill Fitzmaurice
Accept the fact that airtight and well-braced are more important than pretty on the inside. Bill Fitzmaurice
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Re: New Amp's for 4-DR250's & 4-T39's
I do agree that the price is steeper than most for the Crown amps but so is the resale value. It's much like the resale value with Ford-v-Chevy. I would never own a Ford based on there resale value.
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4-25" Lab12 loaded T39's
2-DR250's Melded array
2-DR250's Flat array
4-25" Lab12 loaded T39's
2-DR250's Melded array
2-DR250's Flat array
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Re: New Amp's for 4-DR250's & 4-T39's
You obviously don't drive a truck in Texas.biggerrigger wrote:I do agree that the price is steeper than most for the Crown amps but so is the resale value. It's much like the resale value with Ford-v-Chevy. I would never own a Ford based on there resale value.
6 - T39 3012LF
4 - OT12 2512
1 - T24
1 - SLA Pro
2 - XF210
"A system with a few knobs set up by someone who knows what they are doing is always better than one with a lot of knobs set up by someone who doesn't."
Re: New Amp's for 4-DR250's & 4-T39's
cough cough.
try https://www.northernsoundandlight.com/ If you havnt ordered already
this will seriously help your wallet. I promise. you have to sign up for an account to see pricing, but its worth it. great folk.
try https://www.northernsoundandlight.com/ If you havnt ordered already
this will seriously help your wallet. I promise. you have to sign up for an account to see pricing, but its worth it. great folk.
Built:
2x Tuba 30s delta12lf loaded (gone)
4x Otop12 d2512 loaded
8x t48s (18, 18, 24, 24, 30, 30) 3015lf loaded
2x AT (1 mcm, 1 gto 804)
2x SLA Pro (dayton pa6, 6 goldwood piezo loaded)
1x bastard XF208
2x OT212 (delta pro 450a loaded, eminence psd)
2x Tuba 30s delta12lf loaded (gone)
4x Otop12 d2512 loaded
8x t48s (18, 18, 24, 24, 30, 30) 3015lf loaded
2x AT (1 mcm, 1 gto 804)
2x SLA Pro (dayton pa6, 6 goldwood piezo loaded)
1x bastard XF208
2x OT212 (delta pro 450a loaded, eminence psd)
Re: New Amp's for 4-DR250's & 4-T39's
They are whom I bought mine from, some 7 years ago. They had great pricing then, as they do now.sine143 wrote:cough cough.
try https://www.northernsoundandlight.com/ If you havnt ordered already
this will seriously help your wallet. I promise. you have to sign up for an account to see pricing, but its worth it. great folk.
Personally, I would still choose the Peavey IPR over the Crowns.
I know money often seals the deal, but seriously, quality is an investment, not an expense... Grant Bunter
Accept the fact that airtight and well-braced are more important than pretty on the inside. Bill Fitzmaurice
Accept the fact that airtight and well-braced are more important than pretty on the inside. Bill Fitzmaurice
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Re: New Amp's for 4-DR250's & 4-T39's
I run my DR250s stereo on two separate amps. 2 melded and 2 compression. Greater control of EQ and power shading. May not be something you do now but definitely consider it for the future.
Jamie
Fayetteville, AR
In Pursuit Of Audio Perfection
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Fayetteville, AR
In Pursuit Of Audio Perfection
"A Bad Mix is Bad at Any Volume"
Re: New Amp's for 4-DR250's & 4-T39's
So is the IPR2 3000 a good choice for running 4x Tuba 30's with Lab 12's?
Also, my poor maths is leaving me confused... perhaps someone can help... If I'm running two Tuba's on each channel of the amp, that'll be a 4 ohm load. To get 50 volts per channel I'll need 625 watts which is well within the amps rated power.
What I'm not sure about is current draw: How many amps will I be drawing at the wall? Is it 12.5 amps total or is it 2 x 12.5 amps? If it's the latter, that doesn't sound like it'll work with a normal UK wall plug with 13 amp fuse.
Also, my poor maths is leaving me confused... perhaps someone can help... If I'm running two Tuba's on each channel of the amp, that'll be a 4 ohm load. To get 50 volts per channel I'll need 625 watts which is well within the amps rated power.
What I'm not sure about is current draw: How many amps will I be drawing at the wall? Is it 12.5 amps total or is it 2 x 12.5 amps? If it's the latter, that doesn't sound like it'll work with a normal UK wall plug with 13 amp fuse.
Built: 4x Tuba 30 (24" with Lab 12's), 2x OTOP 12 (112 with 3012HO and Melded arrays)
In the rack:: DCX2496, DEQ2496 + Peavey IPR2 3000 for Tubas and a Dynacord S1200 for Tops
In the rack:: DCX2496, DEQ2496 + Peavey IPR2 3000 for Tubas and a Dynacord S1200 for Tops
Re: New Amp's for 4-DR250's & 4-T39's
Don't you guys use 230 Volt power? If so the amps will be well within limits.knitatoms wrote: What I'm not sure about is current draw: How many amps will I be drawing at the wall? Is it 12.5 amps total or is it 2 x 12.5 amps? If it's the latter, that doesn't sound like it'll work with a normal UK wall plug with 13 amp fuse.
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Re: New Amp's for 4-DR250's & 4-T39's
Output power and associated current is not the same as what the amplifier draws from the power socket. You need to find the value for current draw.What I'm not sure about is current draw: How many amps will I be drawing at the wall? Is it 12.5 amps total or is it 2 x 12.5 amps? If it's the latter, that doesn't sound like it'll work with a normal UK wall plug with 13 amp fuse.
From the IPR2 3000 user manual:
Current Draw @ 1/8 in VA (watts) 615 (315) @ 4 ohms
Current Draw @ 1/3 in VA (watts) 1215 (735) @ 4 ohms
I've taken out the 2 ohm and 8 ohm ratings to make it easier to see.
Sure, when you go above 1/3 power, those figures increase.
I think the UK power is or has dropped to 220V.
Still, 13 x 220 = 2860W, so at 1/3 power you still have more than 2000W available in your socket supply to draw on...
Built:
DR 250: x 2 melded array, 2x CD horn, March 2012 plans.
T39's: 4 x 20" KL3010LF , 2 x 28" 3012LF.
WH8: x 6 with melded array wired series/parallel.
Bunter's Audio and Lighting "like"s would be most appreciated...
DR 250: x 2 melded array, 2x CD horn, March 2012 plans.
T39's: 4 x 20" KL3010LF , 2 x 28" 3012LF.
WH8: x 6 with melded array wired series/parallel.
Bunter's Audio and Lighting "like"s would be most appreciated...
Re: New Amp's for 4-DR250's & 4-T39's
+1, sort of. The draw at the plug will be around 735 watts, or a little over 3 amps. You blokes should have no problems running 4 IPR2-3000 full-tilt from a single 13 amp plug.Grant Bunter wrote:Output power and associated current is not the same as what the amplifier draws from the power socket. You need to find the value for current draw.
From the IPR2 3000 user manual:
Current Draw @ 1/8 in VA (watts) 615 (315) @ 4 ohms
Current Draw @ 1/3 in VA (watts) 1215 (735) @ 4 ohms
I've taken out the 2 ohm and 8 ohm ratings to make it easier to see.
Sure, when you go above 1/3 power, those figures increase.
I think the UK power is or has dropped to 220V.
Still, 13 x 220 = 2860W, so at 1/3 power you still have more than 2000W available in your socket supply to draw on...
I know money often seals the deal, but seriously, quality is an investment, not an expense... Grant Bunter
Accept the fact that airtight and well-braced are more important than pretty on the inside. Bill Fitzmaurice
Accept the fact that airtight and well-braced are more important than pretty on the inside. Bill Fitzmaurice