Old Iron British Amps.....?

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BassheadUK · #1 Post by **BassheadUK** » Sun Jun 02, 2013 1:11 pm

I was advised in another thread to look at the old english such as C-Audio or Citronic PPX range. I have been watching some one an auction site and the PPX are really really cheap.

Why....?

Is it because mobile DJ's dont want to lug around 22kg amps? Is it because the newer ones consume less mains power so you wont overload a mains socket?

Are they really better than todays lightweight equivalents...?

sine143 · #2 Post by **sine143** » Sun Jun 02, 2013 2:28 pm

dunno bout better. cheaper though

Grant Bunter · #3 Post by **Grant Bunter** » Sun Jun 02, 2013 4:21 pm

I have a couple of old iron amps and use them in my rig.
They are not user friendly weight wise, they weigh 35kg before I put them in a sleeve.

They didn't cost me much.

It is said that modern lightweight class D amps like clean power to work.
My amps historically are "bullet proof", tour well and work under almost any conditions, including somewhat dubious power in outback Australia.

The main benefit is they are nowadays cheap. I couldn't have afforded to buy them when they were new!
So, if you're prepared to lug some weight, you can save money, if nothing else...

byacey · #4 Post by **byacey** » Sun Jun 02, 2013 7:42 pm

Stay away from the Old H&H amps; the output boards like to catch fire. One thing they designed to last forever though, were the fuses. Even with charred PC boards, the mains fuse was still in excellent shape.

BassheadUK · #5 Post by **BassheadUK** » Mon Jun 03, 2013 6:12 am

Funny that, I have been watching several and they seem to be the higher priced ones (H&H) - There is one in the cupboard of the charity that I volunteer at thats marked up "DO NOT USE" i was going to drag out and see why, but perhaps I can see why without seeing why.....!

I like the look of the PPX900 - Seems great value and thats something that I'll need after renovating the house and a baby on the way is a cheap amp!

Bas Gooiker · #6 Post by **Bas Gooiker** » Mon Jun 03, 2013 10:41 am

BassheadUK wrote:Funny that, I have been watching several and they seem to be the higher priced ones (H&H) - There is one in the cupboard of the charity that I volunteer at thats marked up "DO NOT USE" i was going to drag out and see why, but perhaps I can see why without seeing why.....!

I like the look of the PPX900 - Seems great value and thats something that I'll need after renovating the house and a baby on the way is a cheap amp!

The HH V series is very highly appreciated because of its high sound quality. PPX 900 and c-audio SR series is also great amps. Even at their age they will run effordlesly even in 4 ohm bridge.

byacey · #7 Post by **byacey** » Mon Jun 03, 2013 8:50 pm

The V series came later. I believe they had the Power Mosfet outputs; and I never worked on any of these aside from perhaps cleaning the input controls and blowing the dust out of the cabinets.

It's the S500D that was a large, heavy electronic incendiary device that required the removal of 400 loctited machine screws, all located in near-inaccessible places to service. It was all bipolar transistor outputs.

BassheadUK · #8 Post by **BassheadUK** » Mon Jun 24, 2013 4:21 am

All the old Citronic PPX amps on the auction sites have dried up now

BassheadUK · #9 Post by **BassheadUK** » Tue Jun 25, 2013 3:47 pm

What are these Crown XTI's with built in limiters....?

Gotta weigh up the spending £50.00 on a 40kg amp and another £200 on a DCX, or just spending £3/400 on an amp with built in limiter.

sine143 · #10 Post by **sine143** » Wed Jun 26, 2013 2:45 am

what cabs?

you want the XTI 2 series. forget the original xti

BassheadUK · #11 Post by **BassheadUK** » Wed Jun 26, 2013 2:57 am

sine143 wrote: what cabs?

Undecided yet..... Probably starting with a couple of T39's followed by OT12's till I have time to engineer up some DR250's

Just seen the prices of the Mk2's.... Ouch.... Cheaper to get an old PPX and DCX for the time being !

VTypeV4 · #12 Post by **VTypeV4** » Thu Jul 25, 2013 6:55 pm

I've enjoyed many years of trouble-free service from various PPX series amps. Our old 450 was hammered to within an inch of it's life everynight and never once complained. I put a 900 into a venue as a stop-gap measure to drive a little sub about 8 years ago.. It's still there! Great amps inspite of their weight.

Also consider Cloud CV and VTX series amps. These have a clip limiter in them which can be adjusted by a trim pot which can be handy. Just like the PPX, they weigh a ton but I've never seen one fail, my CV1000 has seen many nights of hammer but continues to do the biz without drama. VTX will sustain 2ohm /ch and 4 ohm bridge and even at the end of the night they're as cool as when they were switched on. Good 'honest' watts out of these..

Hope that helps.

BassheadUK · #13 Post by **BassheadUK** » Wed Aug 14, 2013 3:20 pm

Been watching the auction sites like a hawk and all that ever comes up are the 450's !

I want a 900 !

BassheadUK · #14 Post by **BassheadUK** » Sun Aug 18, 2013 3:54 pm

Took a plunge, Bought a JBL MPX1200 !

Bas Gooiker · #15 Post by **Bas Gooiker** » Sun Aug 18, 2013 4:08 pm

BassheadUK wrote:Took a plunge, Bought a JBL MPX1200 !

Highly regarded sub amp!

What poor driver is going to get hammered by this beast?

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