Crown XLS 802

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Crown XLS 802

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Guitar center has them for $399
Is this a good choice for 2 T48's, 3015 loaded.

What would be a good amp for the TLAH's?

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Re: Crown XLS 802

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It's a little shy in power, but usable. look on www.craigslist.org and E-Bay for good used amps. Since this is a permanent install, look for the old Crown CS series of amps. Big, heavy work-horse monsters that will never die.

As for the TLAH, this depends on which woofer you are using, and what impedance it's wired for. The Crown XLS 202, or a Crown CS 800, would work fine.
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MDW wrote:Guitar center has them for $399
Is this a good choice for 2 T48's, 3015 loaded.

What would be a good amp for the TLAH's?
Look around, crown just had a rebate program a while ago for this. I think I bought my xls for like 280 since it was refurbished. Also, my band gigged with the behringer ep2500 and we abused that thing to no end and it's still running strong. It's been replaced by the ep4000, all three(802,ep2500,ep4000) are pretty similar.
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Re: Crown XLS 802

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I thought you guys might know of a better deal.
I didn't expect it to be underpowered.
I have a ep2500 now that I will try but I'm going ro need more amps as I get stuff built.

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MDW wrote:I thought you guys might know of a better deal.
I didn't expect it to be underpowered.
I have a ep2500 now that I will try but I'm going ro need more amps as I get stuff built.
A heads up - qsc/behringer and crown amps don't play nice. The airflow is reversed on the amps, so you will need to keep them on different racks.
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SeisTres wrote:
MDW wrote:I thought you guys might know of a better deal.
I didn't expect it to be underpowered.
I have a ep2500 now that I will try but I'm going ro need more amps as I get stuff built.
A heads up - qsc/behringer and crown amps don't play nice. The airflow is reversed on the amps, so you will need to keep them on different racks.
Wont matter for the Crown, (In front out back) but the QSC will be sucking the Crowns Hot air in it's back and pushing it out its front!
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Ron K wrote:Wont matter for the Crown, (In front out back) but the QSC will be sucking the Crowns Hot air in it's back and pushing it out its front!
Wouldn't the crown also be sucking the hot air from the QSC into it's front and pushing it out it's back?
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jswingchun wrote:
Ron K wrote:Wont matter for the Crown, (In front out back) but the QSC will be sucking the Crowns Hot air in it's back and pushing it out its front!
Wouldn't the crown also be sucking the hot air from the QSC into it's front and pushing it out it's back?
yep yep, both, beh and qsc, back to front and the crown is front to back(or visa versa for both amps), thus creating a loop of hot air from being sucked in from the output of the other amp.

Or you could always make a DIY rack in which you will be able to mount the amps facing opposite directions, but the the led's and cables will be all wrong, but it would work nonetheless.
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Air flow is not an issue as the Crown & Behringer are not going to be in the same rack.
Does anyone know if the Crown XLS 802 is 4ohm stable bridged?
Crown's site doesn't rate it @ 4ohm's bridged??
But a lot of dealer are saying it will put out 2100 watts @ 4ohm bridged?

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jswingchun wrote:
Ron K wrote:Wont matter for the Crown, (In front out back) but the QSC will be sucking the Crowns Hot air in it's back and pushing it out its front!
Wouldn't the crown also be sucking the hot air from the QSC into it's front and pushing it out it's back?
Only if you put them in a closet! Anything out the front is vented to atmosphere so its kind of a non issue especially if the Crowns on the bottom. Vented out the back vents the warm air into the rack which is a much smaller atmosphere then into the room.Rack internals can keep the heat enclosed even with the cover removed and it's worse on smaller racks.That's why lots of guys mount 2 - 4" boxer fans in the back of their bigger amp racks to help remove the built up heat in the rack.If all the amps have the same airflow its usually not an issue but if you plaster the back of the rack up against the wall or very close those extra fans will help vent out more hot air.
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I always invert the cables or switch the position of the fan when that happens just to be happy with myself a friend of mine keeps 2 spaces between them but that makes my rack to tumble a little
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#12 Post by MDW »

I bought a EP4000 from PE today.
Among other things.
I hope to start the TLAH's soon.
Then the T-48's.

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Re: Crown XLS 802

#13 Post by MDW »

Got the amp today. That was quick.
Also got some more JVC 3X5's :)

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