Simplexx 112 drivers choice - Deltalite 2512 vs. Kappalite 3012HO

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Simplexx 112 drivers choice - Deltalite 2512 vs. Kappalite 3012HO

#1 Post by EduBH1978 » Sun Sep 16, 2018 9:51 pm

Well, just bought the plains and read them twice...some questions still unanswered, hope you guys can help me!

Drivers choice!

I couldn't find an 3012HO chart (EDIT: this driver in this box), so I threw the data in WinISD, but i don't have it all for sure... assume that the box is tuned around 50hz.
Am I right to assume that, between the Deltalite 2512 vs. Kappalite 3012HO (both listed), main differences would be:

1. Higher SPL for Kappalite, sounds louder. BUT, if my power is limited to, let's say, 150W, the bump in the 100hz will let the Deltalite louder. Am I right or completly wrong?
2. Same performance in the low area (50hz to 60hz). Not great drivers for a 5 string (I don't use one actually), but if i want to, do they both performance equally? Decent or really poor box for a 5 string? And i a stack 2 of them, would work better?

Other than that, I couldn't see any difference, but price.

Is the differences are just that one, I would go for the Deltalite, and make two of them, one with tweeter, other without. What do you guys say?
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Re: Simplexx 112 drivers choice - Deltalite 2512 vs. Kappalite 3012HO

#2 Post by SethRocksYou » Sun Sep 16, 2018 10:12 pm

EduBH1978 wrote:
Sun Sep 16, 2018 9:51 pm
...3012HO chart...
https://www.parts-express.com/pedocs/sp ... ations.pdf


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Re: Simplexx 112 drivers choice - Deltalite 2512 vs. Kappalite 3012HO

#3 Post by EduBH1978 » Mon Sep 17, 2018 7:47 am

SethRocksYou wrote:
Sun Sep 16, 2018 10:12 pm
EduBH1978 wrote:
Sun Sep 16, 2018 9:51 pm
...3012HO chart...
https://www.parts-express.com/pedocs/sp ... ations.pdf


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I meant a chart of this driver in BFM's box... gonna edit my post.

Thanks.

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Re: Simplexx 112 drivers choice - Deltalite 2512 vs. Kappalite 3012HO

#4 Post by Bruce Weldy » Mon Sep 17, 2018 9:02 am

EduBH1978 wrote:
Mon Sep 17, 2018 7:47 am
SethRocksYou wrote:
Sun Sep 16, 2018 10:12 pm
EduBH1978 wrote:
Sun Sep 16, 2018 9:51 pm
...3012HO chart...
https://www.parts-express.com/pedocs/sp ... ations.pdf


:thumbsup:
I meant a chart of this driver in BFM's box... gonna edit my post.

Thanks.
The response isn't going to be all that much different. The HO has a larger xmax and and handles more power. 2db here or there is not going to make that much difference. If you want to go lower, build a Jack. The cab design will determine how low the box can go.

6 - T39 4-25" 2-22" 3012LF
4 - OT12 2512 Melded/NSD2005
1 - T24
2 - XF210


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Re: Simplexx 112 drivers choice - Deltalite 2512 vs. Kappalite 3012HO

#5 Post by Askia » Sat Sep 22, 2018 9:03 am

I have the 3012ho wedge 1x12, and heard the 2512,and i have no problems with the lows. I play with a 6 stringer, plenty of low B. Keep in mind that it's a single 12, so for louder gigs you might need 2 of them,for me the single 3012ho is just enough. The problems for me are:
1. I've made a bgh25-8 tweeter version,and had hard times with the xover,as it never sounded good.Way too much highs especially that bad 2-2.5 kHz region,which is baaad for bass guitar. In the end i installed a hpf at 3.5 kHz with an l-pad,which made the best result,but in the end i still had to use a parametric eq to kill that stupid 2-2.5kHz emphasis that these eminence drivers have. Now it sounds good,but started to think,that i might try a faital speaker which has more linear output, and has the parameters needed for the cab. This way I will use eq to shape my sound,and not for making a harsh sounding cab good.
2. None. All problems are in the previous chapter. :)

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