Wedding gig advice

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jimbo7
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Wedding gig advice

#1 Post by jimbo7 » Tue Oct 08, 2019 8:03 pm

I'll be providing sound for my first paying gig in a few weeks....a wedding :shock: It'll be outside with the ceremony of 100-125 people next to a lake and the reception is in a 30x45 and 30x30 tent (both butted together). To make life easier, I plan on having 2 setups.

The first is a small powered mixer (Carvin PA410), 2 SLA Pro's and wireless mic for the ceremony. This will only be used for the entrance/exit song and talking. This small setup will make it easier to tear-down and walk it over to the tent which is about 500 yards away. The second setup would be my big boy rack with 2 t39's and probably the 2 SLA's (OT12's are probable overkill for this...2 t39 are probably overkill too...) Comments? Questions?

My main concern will be clean power since I'll be running 50-100ft power cords. The small setup no big deal, but the big setup's power will come from a nearby barn with unknown wiring. I've stressed that I need at least 1 dedicated circuit for my gear (they're running string lights for the tent off the barn's power, too) in case a breaker trips. There's the possibility to use a generator, but I don't like that idea and they'll probably agree after it's started up.

One last concern. I don't think I'll get my Crown Xti2002 back from repair before the wedding, so will a XLS1500 powering the T39's be ok? I won't need all the voltage a 3012lf can take (the get plenty loud with the xls1500). I can run the amp bridged and the cabs in parallel, but that's a question better suited for the more experienced. Yeah I could rent a proper amp, but I'm already doing this gig for beer money. All help is appreciated.
BFM builds:
XF212
T24 BP102 24"
2x SLA's 6-5" mids, 9- gt-302's
2x AT 14" MCM 55-2421
TrT 5" MCM 55-2421
AT 18" JBL GTO804
2x OT12 flat array
2x SLA Pro 2-Alpha 6's 2-Goldwoods
2x T39 24" 3012lf

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BrentEvans
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Re: Wedding gig advice

#2 Post by BrentEvans » Tue Oct 08, 2019 9:00 pm

Use 12 gauge extension cords, you’ll be fine. “Clean” power is a bit of a myth. Voltage drop is the real enemy and 12 gauge takes care of that. If you have two sets of tops, use one for the ceremony (the lighter set if you have to carry it) and have the other set ready to go for the reception. No surprises that way and it looks more “Pro” to the client and other potential clients to not be mucking about moving gear.
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Re: Wedding gig advice

#3 Post by SethRocksYou » Tue Oct 08, 2019 9:09 pm

BrentEvans wrote:
Tue Oct 08, 2019 9:00 pm
other potential clients
Great point Brent

CoronaOperator
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Re: Wedding gig advice

#4 Post by CoronaOperator » Tue Oct 08, 2019 9:12 pm

What Brent said and ...

Use a fresh battery in the wireless, bring a spare battery and bring a wired mic with cables patched in and ready to go just in case.

Any chance you can do a site survey before the gig to scope out power and make sure there are at least 2 circuits? Usually when the client says there is tons of power there is 1 outlet to share between you and the catering and they have big coffee makers. Bring a toaster with you to do a current draw test, if the toaster doesn't trip the breaker you will be fine.
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Re: Wedding gig advice

#5 Post by CoronaOperator » Tue Oct 08, 2019 9:15 pm

.. I'll also add that people giving speeches without a podium (free to walk around) tend to like to stand in front of a speaker which can cause feedback. Just keep your hand on the pan control and pan to the opposite side when they do that.
Built:
17" width 10" driver Autotuba
2 x 29" width dual Lab12 Tuba60
6 x DR250 2510/asd1001
In progress:
2 x DR250 2510/asd1001
For best results, point the loud end of the array towards the audience

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Re: Wedding gig advice

#6 Post by jimbo7 » Wed Oct 09, 2019 4:53 pm

This is a low budget country-themed wedding that a family friend asked me to do for his daughter. The people "running the show" (I use the term loosely) is the bride and her mother-in-law to be. I've made it as clear a possible my needs for this to go smoothly. I'm not sure it's sunk in.

I'll have at least one 12ga 50ft extension cord but can borrow more from work. Batteries will be installed new the day of with extras and I have a wired mic I'll bring (the officiator has the wireless setup). I got as much detail as possible about the property over the phone, and goolgle mapped it. I'll definatly get there plenty early to scout it out and setup.

The toaster thing made me laugh, but it makes sense. I'm sure everyone will think I'm nuts when I'm walking around with a toaster and extension cord.
BFM builds:
XF212
T24 BP102 24"
2x SLA's 6-5" mids, 9- gt-302's
2x AT 14" MCM 55-2421
TrT 5" MCM 55-2421
AT 18" JBL GTO804
2x OT12 flat array
2x SLA Pro 2-Alpha 6's 2-Goldwoods
2x T39 24" 3012lf

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Re: Wedding gig advice

#7 Post by himhimself » Wed Oct 09, 2019 5:49 pm

I have a couple long 10g extension cords just to be sure power is never an issue. If you connect cords together, make sure they can't be pulled apart. Like duct tape. Same goes for where you plug into the circuit - if you can find a way to secure the cord, do it. Also, place all cords and cables carefully so that no one trips and accidentally unplugs something. That goes for speakers, too, although if using speakons, that should be okay. I remember at MY wedding (caught on video), when a bridesmaid tripped and unplugged the left mains just as the exit wedding march started. She kind of looked at it, then turned to the groomsman and walked back up the aisle, as half the audio disappeared. Argh.
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jimbo7
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Re: Wedding gig advice

#8 Post by jimbo7 » Wed Oct 09, 2019 6:45 pm

Yeah I'm pretty picky about routing cables along the ground so nobody trips and yanks my speakers down. Since it'll be outside in the grass, I might get some metal tent stakes to hold the cords down tight to the ground.
BFM builds:
XF212
T24 BP102 24"
2x SLA's 6-5" mids, 9- gt-302's
2x AT 14" MCM 55-2421
TrT 5" MCM 55-2421
AT 18" JBL GTO804
2x OT12 flat array
2x SLA Pro 2-Alpha 6's 2-Goldwoods
2x T39 24" 3012lf

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