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REDLINE wrote:Well everyone keeps talking about different kinds of birch, but I don't know how to find any of those. I stopped by the Home Depot to take a look, and all it said was just birch. A single 4x8 1/2" think sheet of "birch" would cost me $29.95. I have no idea what kind it is, but I figured that is what I would use.

As far as the rat fur goes, for some reason I really like it and I think it looks really professional. My old speakers weren't rat fur, and I thought they looked shitty (although maybe they weren't duratex cause they were really cheap), so I'll head on over to GC and ask what speakers are duratex so I can see what the material looks like.
Thats the chinese mystery wood.

Duratex is very similar to the finish you find on EAW & the hi-end JBL stuff. Doubt if you will find that in GC. Google Duratex & Acrytech for info. Theyre in Fl.
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GC carries the JBL MRX Line and they are covered with a material similar to Duratex called Duraflex. It's probably Duratex renamed by JBL!
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REDLINE wrote:Well everyone keeps talking about different kinds of birch, but I don't know how to find any of those. I stopped by the Home Depot to take a look, and all it said was just birch. A single 4x8 1/2" think sheet of "birch" would cost me $29.95. I have no idea what kind it is, but I figured that is what I would use.
That $hit they sell at Home Depot is the chinese veneered birch. Try Menard's, ask for A/C grade hardwood plywood, or Baltic Birch. True Baltic Birch only comes in 60" X 60" full sheets. But you can also use good hardwood plywood (oak, pine, spruce, poplar) as long as it has at least 5 EQUAL plys, and little or no voids(footballs are ok, but not too many per sheet)
REDLINE wrote:As far as the rat fur goes, for some reason I really like it and I think it looks really professional. My old speakers weren't rat fur, and I thought they looked shitty (although maybe they weren't DuraTex cause they were really cheap), so I'll head on over to GC and ask what speakers are DuraTex so I can see what the material looks like.
GC will have no clue what DuraTex is. But you can get a good idea what it is by looking at a Mackie SWA1501 or 1801 self powered sub. The black bumpy painted covering is DuraTex or a very similar coating.
I just re-did a WedgeHorn in black DuraTex High Build. 1st try was with a hopper gun. I screwed that all up. Sanded it all off and rolled it on with a cheap foam 3" roller. WOW! :shock: It's exactly the finish I wanted, with a "sanded" feel to it. Not rough like sandpaper, just a fine texture to it. I am so pleased with it now. Took me 4X longer to sand off my sprayed on mistake than to roll on 3 coats, using maybe 12-16 oz of DTHB all together. Around 2" gone from the gallon pail.
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DJPhatman wrote:
GC will have no clue what DuraTex is.
Isn't cluelessness a requirement for employment at GC? :wink:

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DJPhatman wrote:
REDLINE wrote:Well everyone keeps talking about different kinds of birch, but I don't know how to find any of those. I stopped by the Home Depot to take a look, and all it said was just birch. A single 4x8 1/2" think sheet of "birch" would cost me $29.95. I have no idea what kind it is, but I figured that is what I would use.
That $hit they sell at Home Depot is the chinese veneered birch. Try Menard's, ask for A/C grade hardwood plywood, or Baltic Birch. True Baltic Birch only comes in 60" X 60" full sheets. But you can also use good hardwood plywood (oak, pine, spruce, poplar) as long as it has at least 5 EQUAL plys, and little or no voids(footballs are ok, but not too many per sheet)
REDLINE wrote:As far as the rat fur goes, for some reason I really like it and I think it looks really professional. My old speakers weren't rat fur, and I thought they looked shitty (although maybe they weren't DuraTex cause they were really cheap), so I'll head on over to GC and ask what speakers are DuraTex so I can see what the material looks like.
GC will have no clue what DuraTex is. But you can get a good idea what it is by looking at a Mackie SWA1501 or 1801 self powered sub. The black bumpy painted covering is DuraTex or a very similar coating.
I just re-did a WedgeHorn in black DuraTex High Build. 1st try was with a hopper gun. I screwed that all up. Sanded it all off and rolled it on with a cheap foam 3" roller. WOW! :shock: It's exactly the finish I wanted, with a "sanded" feel to it. Not rough like sandpaper, just a fine texture to it. I am so pleased with it now. Took me 4X longer to sand off my sprayed on mistake than to roll on 3 coats, using maybe 12-16 oz of DTHB all together. Around 1" gone from the gallon pail.
Thank you for the information, i'll go to Menards and see what they have.

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Tim A wrote:Most people when first arriving tend to overbuild, simply because they don't understand exactly what these cabs are capable of.
That has to be the statement of the year.

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REDLINE wrote:I stopped by the Home Depot to take a look, and all it said was just birch.
Try Lowe's. Arauco/Radiata is about $24 per sheet out here in CA.

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Chris_Allen wrote:
Tim A wrote:Most people when first arriving tend to overbuild, simply because they don't understand exactly what these cabs are capable of.
That has to be the statement of the year.
Unless you are as I am, completely insane. Then even 8 cabs isn't quite enough. :lol: :lol: :lol: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
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#70 Post by Tom Smit »

REDLINE-You are asking a lot of questions, and that is good! You may have noticed all the free, instant advice. Follow it and you will end up with a quality product. Keep progressing. :)

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Sydney wrote:* HEY DAVYGRVY - what does one of those AT weigh?
48 pounds with an HL10c done with the old 16" wide/tall dimensions. It wasn't baltic birch, some Chinese import 7-ply birch. So probably add 5 pounds for BB.
I'd like to revise that numbernow that I've completely finished it (pun intended).. 58 pounds now with aluminum edge gaurds, metal ball corner protectors and covered in rat fur.. Horn mouth was stained and coated with clear.. sweet.

For me, it hits the edge of a comfortable carry now.

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