New WH8
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Re: New WH8
I just added a DEQ2496 to my system
Bill how do u like it ? I have been reading the manual and thinking about getting one.
Bill how do u like it ? I have been reading the manual and thinking about getting one.
Built:
2 Autotuba's MCM 55 2421
8 T48's 24"wide 3015 LF
2 DR 250's melded Deltalite II 2510
2 DR 250's flat Deltalite II 2510
2 SLA HT systems
1 Table Tuba Dayton DCS 255-4
2 T 39's 20" wide 3012 LF
1 T-18 13" wide MCM 55 2421
2 SLA Pro's
2 Autotuba's MCM 55 2421
8 T48's 24"wide 3015 LF
2 DR 250's melded Deltalite II 2510
2 DR 250's flat Deltalite II 2510
2 SLA HT systems
1 Table Tuba Dayton DCS 255-4
2 T 39's 20" wide 3012 LF
1 T-18 13" wide MCM 55 2421
2 SLA Pro's
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Re: New WH8
The DEQ I love. The manual, not so much. I found the FBD instructions almost useless, not telling you that if you don't set the threshold at -40dB the Learn mode won't work.
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Re: New WH8
Holy crap, so that's the damn secret.Bill Fitzmaurice wrote:The DEQ I love. The manual, not so much. I found the FBD instructions almost useless, not telling you that if you don't set the threshold at -40dB the Learn mode won't work.
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If only manuals were written by Art majors instead of geeks they would be like so:LelandCrooks wrote:Holy crap, so that's the damn secret.Bill Fitzmaurice wrote:The DEQ I love. The manual, not so much. I found the FBD instructions almost useless, not telling you that if you don't set the threshold at -40dB the Learn mode won't work.
1. Do this
2. Do this
3. Do this
4. It's done
It took me a good four hours of fiddling about to decipher how to use the DEQ, and I've got 45 years of audio engineering experience to draw on. I pity a newbie trying to deal with it.
Re: New WH8
I'm glad it's not just me that thinks the manual for the DEQ is just complete shit.
4xOT12s, 2xT39s@22", TTLS@18", 2xT60@18"
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I wasn't trying to say i have a DEQ 2496,i was trying to Quote Bills statement.That manual is the reason i dont own one now,i think i'm going to keep studying the manual to get a better understanding of it before i buy it,i may just rebuild my T 48's while i study.
Built:
2 Autotuba's MCM 55 2421
8 T48's 24"wide 3015 LF
2 DR 250's melded Deltalite II 2510
2 DR 250's flat Deltalite II 2510
2 SLA HT systems
1 Table Tuba Dayton DCS 255-4
2 T 39's 20" wide 3012 LF
1 T-18 13" wide MCM 55 2421
2 SLA Pro's
2 Autotuba's MCM 55 2421
8 T48's 24"wide 3015 LF
2 DR 250's melded Deltalite II 2510
2 DR 250's flat Deltalite II 2510
2 SLA HT systems
1 Table Tuba Dayton DCS 255-4
2 T 39's 20" wide 3012 LF
1 T-18 13" wide MCM 55 2421
2 SLA Pro's
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Re: New WH8
I haven't been back here since I posted my question. Busy building cabs and playing a show this weekend. Thanks for the replies. I think I may end up rebuilding mine to the new design sometime. My old ones were the second cabs I ever built, so they were a bit messy.
Omni 10
Omni 10.5
OmniTop 12 x 4
Wedgehorn 8 x 3
XF212
T39 @ 18" x 2
T39 @ 20" x 2
T39 @ 28" x 2
Jack 110 x 5
Jack Lite 12
XF210
XF210 (Slant only, no crossfire)
Omni 10.5
OmniTop 12 x 4
Wedgehorn 8 x 3
XF212
T39 @ 18" x 2
T39 @ 20" x 2
T39 @ 28" x 2
Jack 110 x 5
Jack Lite 12
XF210
XF210 (Slant only, no crossfire)
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Re: New WH8
I can't help but think, "it's an EQ -- how hard could it be?" Famous last words, eh?
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Re: New WH8
Heh... it's four different EQs... Parametric, graphic, dynamic, and feedback destroyer... and they all operate a bit (or a bunch) differently than all the other ones.SirNickity wrote:I can't help but think, "it's an EQ -- how hard could it be?" Famous last words, eh?
Although, I will say it only took me about 20 minutes to get the hang of it. Then again, I'm a nerd.
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20 minutes huh,i know whose P.M. box i will be blowing upBrentEvans wrote:Heh... it's four different EQs... Parametric, graphic, dynamic, and feedback destroyer... and they all operate a bit (or a bunch) differently than all the other ones.SirNickity wrote:I can't help but think, "it's an EQ -- how hard could it be?" Famous last words, eh?
Although, I will say it only took me about 20 minutes to get the hang of it. Then again, I'm a nerd.
Built:
2 Autotuba's MCM 55 2421
8 T48's 24"wide 3015 LF
2 DR 250's melded Deltalite II 2510
2 DR 250's flat Deltalite II 2510
2 SLA HT systems
1 Table Tuba Dayton DCS 255-4
2 T 39's 20" wide 3012 LF
1 T-18 13" wide MCM 55 2421
2 SLA Pro's
2 Autotuba's MCM 55 2421
8 T48's 24"wide 3015 LF
2 DR 250's melded Deltalite II 2510
2 DR 250's flat Deltalite II 2510
2 SLA HT systems
1 Table Tuba Dayton DCS 255-4
2 T 39's 20" wide 3012 LF
1 T-18 13" wide MCM 55 2421
2 SLA Pro's
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I had it all wired except the fbd. I never did get that thing to work. But then again, I never had much feedback with the rig. What I had I could pretty quickly notch out.
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Re: New WH8
Leland do you still sell DEQ 2496's ?
Built:
2 Autotuba's MCM 55 2421
8 T48's 24"wide 3015 LF
2 DR 250's melded Deltalite II 2510
2 DR 250's flat Deltalite II 2510
2 SLA HT systems
1 Table Tuba Dayton DCS 255-4
2 T 39's 20" wide 3012 LF
1 T-18 13" wide MCM 55 2421
2 SLA Pro's
2 Autotuba's MCM 55 2421
8 T48's 24"wide 3015 LF
2 DR 250's melded Deltalite II 2510
2 DR 250's flat Deltalite II 2510
2 SLA HT systems
1 Table Tuba Dayton DCS 255-4
2 T 39's 20" wide 3012 LF
1 T-18 13" wide MCM 55 2421
2 SLA Pro's
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Re: New WH8
Not used it on mine yet, but IIRC, in the manual, one thing I remember is that at least one adjustment (however minor) on PEQ needs to be made before FBD will work...
Built:
DR 250: x 2 melded array, 2x CD horn, March 2012 plans.
T39's: 4 x 20" KL3010LF , 2 x 28" 3012LF.
WH8: x 6 with melded array wired series/parallel.
Bunter's Audio and Lighting "like"s would be most appreciated...
DR 250: x 2 melded array, 2x CD horn, March 2012 plans.
T39's: 4 x 20" KL3010LF , 2 x 28" 3012LF.
WH8: x 6 with melded array wired series/parallel.
Bunter's Audio and Lighting "like"s would be most appreciated...
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Re: New WH8
Not quite. The PEQ and FBD share the same ten filters; you can use them on one or the other, but not both. I don't see much use for the PEQ with the 31 band graphic there, so I assigned all ten filters to the FBD.Grant Bunter wrote:Not used it on mine yet, but IIRC, in the manual, one thing I remember is that at least one adjustment (however minor) on PEQ needs to be made before FBD will work...
Re: New WH8
Funny that I saved so long to complete my rack with the DEQ, but often I actually leave it off. I notice that the DEQ panel gets hot after a long night, and the heat ain't coming from the Crown. If you're just running analog, it might be interesting to know that the signal will continue through it without a glitch when powered on/off. I've used results of the RTA to enter some simple corrective eq into the DCX so things sound great without it. Great to have at the press of a finger though!
I'd still like to learn how to use it more fully, especially effective use of the feedback eliminator.
I'd still like to learn how to use it more fully, especially effective use of the feedback eliminator.
2 x T30 23" -3012LF v-plate
2 x Econowave Deluxe HO (awesome custom tops using 3012HO and B&C DE250 on QSC horn)
1 x T39 25" -3012LF
1 x Autotuba -Tang Band
"No Toby, I said a PHILLIPS screwdriver..." (Used Cars, 1980)
2 x Econowave Deluxe HO (awesome custom tops using 3012HO and B&C DE250 on QSC horn)
1 x T39 25" -3012LF
1 x Autotuba -Tang Band
"No Toby, I said a PHILLIPS screwdriver..." (Used Cars, 1980)