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mj90210
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Caster's/Wheel's/Mobility

#1 Post by mj90210 » Tue Sep 05, 2017 2:23 pm

Hello to all!

I am finishing up a build on 4-Dual Loaded Tuba-60's and can't get over the caster option. I have enough engineer in me to worry about casters tearing out from panel 13, even if doubled up, and using the correct hardware. These are built for someone else who will use them outdoors and indoors. I "hope" they will be moved with dolly's 99% of the time but I want them to have the option of moving them on their own. My question is has anyone thought of any safeguards in using casters OR has anyone used an long axle through the bottom corner with external 6" wheels, similar to a dolly, air compressor. etc... I get crazy thinking about a 1/16 or some thin sheet steel say 6"x6"mounted on the lower corners and using the VERTICAL sheer strength of multiple screws, and the hole through the the steel into the wood...I could go on..BUT i have never moved a loaded tuba 60 to know what kind of stresses is placed on the wheels/mounting. Let me know what you guys think. Cost wise it is a wash, just a little more effort on putting it together.

Any success's or failures would be great to hear!

Also, I CANNOT wait to hear them! I am planning on following up with a build thread with some things I learned along the way!

Thanks!
Thank You All for Your Time!!...Really!

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Re: Caster's/Wheel's/Mobility

#2 Post by CoronaOperator » Tue Sep 05, 2017 2:47 pm

I used baltic birch for my dual t60 build and panel 13 is solid.
I just cut out the corners for the casters:
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The casters go in like so:
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They are mounted with carriage bolts, locking washers and then nuts. you can see the carriage bolts here:
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They get moved once a week, people dance on them, etc. Never any problems.
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2 x 29" width dual Lab12 Tuba60
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Re: Caster's/Wheel's/Mobility

#3 Post by Bruce Weldy » Tue Sep 05, 2017 3:12 pm

I used some backing material on my T39s to give plenty of holding power with lag screws.

I used standard casters with a 4 hole mount.

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Re: Caster's/Wheel's/Mobility

#4 Post by Rich4349 » Tue Sep 05, 2017 6:33 pm

I, too, was concerned about the focused impact on the small panel 13, so I doubled it up with the biggest possible piece of 1/2" BB ply that would fit in there.

You could also add a third or fourth caster to the bottom.
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Re: Caster's/Wheel's/Mobility

#5 Post by DJStubbs » Wed Sep 06, 2017 12:11 am

I have had to replace many wheels and ended up replacing all with a heavier duty wheel. Some have ripped out of the holes some wheels break some of the metal wheel casters bent. I went with the thickest metal and best sturdiest wheel I could find and they may be a tad bigger than recommended. And so far so good.
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Re: Caster's/Wheel's/Mobility

#6 Post by jimbo7 » Wed Sep 06, 2017 8:08 pm

CoronaOperator wrote:I used baltic birch for my dual t60 build and panel 13 is solid.
I just cut out the corners for the casters:
Image
The casters go in like so:
Image
They are mounted with carriage bolts, locking washers and then nuts. you can see the carriage bolts here:
Image

They get moved once a week, people dance on them, etc. Never any problems.
Duuuuddddeee! I plan on making a cutting grid table board thingy like what you got your t60 on. How do you like it? Does it make cutting panels arranged on cutlist easier?
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Re: Caster's/Wheel's/Mobility

#7 Post by CoronaOperator » Wed Sep 06, 2017 8:30 pm

jimbo7 wrote:
CoronaOperator wrote: Image
Duuuuddddeee! I plan on making a cutting grid table board thingy like what you got your t60 on. How do you like it? Does it make cutting panels arranged on cutlist easier?
Yes it makes it much easier - the part doesn't need to hang off the end of the table while you cut and doesn't fall to the floor 1" before you are done your cut and tear the piece.

Instructions on page 1 : http://billfitzmaurice.info/forum/viewtopic.php?t=22720

The slots don't have to be measured accurately, as long as you clamp/screw all 5 pieces together so they are in the same place on all 5 pieces you are golden.

I place a sheet of 5x5 baltic birch on top when I'm not cutting to make a work surface, works great.
Built:
17" width 10" driver Autotuba
2 x 29" width dual Lab12 Tuba60
6 x DR250 2510/asd1001
In progress:
2 x DR250 2510/asd1001
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Re: Caster's/Wheel's/Mobility

#8 Post by mj90210 » Thu Sep 07, 2017 1:58 pm

Thanks for the replies! That was exactly what I was after!

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