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Rich4349
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wireless signal

#1 Post by Rich4349 »

How well do you think these would work in a PA system?

https://www.parts-express.com/pedocs/ma ... manual.pdf

Would there be any benefit? Do any bands use this to avoid using a stage snake?
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#2 Post by Bruce Weldy »

I'd hate to rely on mini connectors in a PA situation, but it's doable.

Are you thinking about using them for delay speakers? The spec sheet says 20 meters - "light of sight" - whatever the hell that means. Maybe it's supposed to be line of sight, which would make more sense. In that case, you have to make sure the signal can't get interrupted by trees, people, birthday clowns, bears....

While it may be viable in a home theater situation, I'd be very leery of running that when you have to be sure it's going to work.

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#3 Post by CoronaOperator »

A $20 cable is a million times more reliable than a $15k wireless system.
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#4 Post by Rich4349 »

I didn't have a specific application in mind, just wondering. Gear head dreaming.
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#5 Post by Bruce Weldy »

CoronaOperator wrote:A $20 cable is a million times more reliable than a $15k wireless system.
And it may be ten million times better than a $58 wireless system.

:mrgreen:

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#6 Post by CoronaOperator »

Bruce Weldy wrote: I'd be very leery of running that when you have to be sure it's going to work.
Things like these work perfect in an empty room with nobody in them. Then 800 people show up 10 minutes before showtime and all 800 of their cell phones (which also operate at 2.4 Ghz) try and ping anything and everything wifi and the system fails just as the band walks on stage without any warning.
Built:
17" width 10" driver Autotuba
2 x 29" width dual Lab12 Tuba60
6 x DR250 2510/asd1001
In progress:
2 x DR250 2510/asd1001
For best results, point the loud end of the array towards the audience

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#7 Post by Bruce Weldy »

CoronaOperator wrote:
Bruce Weldy wrote: I'd be very leery of running that when you have to be sure it's going to work.
Things like these work perfect in an empty room with nobody in them. Then 800 people show up 10 minutes before showtime and all 800 of their cell phones (which also operate at 2.4 Ghz) try and ping anything and everything wifi and the system fails just as the band walks on stage without any warning.
And that's one more reason why I HATE wireless mics and guitar rigs. Batteries die....static.....the very building you are in can have an effect on performance......hate 'em.

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#8 Post by Rich4349 »

CoronaOperator wrote: Things like these work perfect in an empty room with nobody in them. Then 800 people show up 10 minutes before showtime and all 800 of their cell phones (which also operate at 2.4 Ghz) try and ping anything and everything wifi and the system fails just as the band walks on stage without any warning.
Excellent point.
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Re: wireless signal

#9 Post by Mkulu »

Rich4349 wrote:How well do you think these would work in a PA system?

https://www.parts-express.com/pedocs/ma ... manual.pdf

Would there be any benefit? Do any bands use this to avoid using a stage snake?

Behringer seem to have got it right. Live with it. it's the future of mixing desks.
But switch off the other free WiFi in the venue.

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#10 Post by Bruce Weldy »

Mkulu wrote:
Rich4349 wrote:How well do you think these would work in a PA system?

https://www.parts-express.com/pedocs/ma ... manual.pdf

Would there be any benefit? Do any bands use this to avoid using a stage snake?

Behringer seem to have got it right. Live with it. it's the future of mixing desks.
But switch off the other free WiFi in the venue.


This has nothing to do with Behringer or Pro Audio in general. The big boys are running Cat5, not wireless from FOH.

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#11 Post by CoronaOperator »

Mkulu wrote: Behringer seem to have got it right. Live with it. it's the future of mixing desks.
But switch off the other free WiFi in the venue.
Only the control surface is wireless, all the audio still goes through wires and the desk still functions on auto-pilot if the signal is lost. The reliable sound operators still have a wired laptop to the box just in case, monitors and side fills in case the wireless IEM's go down, and a few wired mics off to the side in case the wireless mics go down and a few instrument cables ready to go in case the wireless on them goes down. Back up plans for their back up plans.

While wireless is a godsend for convenience, that $20 cable still beats it.
Built:
17" width 10" driver Autotuba
2 x 29" width dual Lab12 Tuba60
6 x DR250 2510/asd1001
In progress:
2 x DR250 2510/asd1001
For best results, point the loud end of the array towards the audience

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