DuraTex, stain, fabric... what are your thoughts?
DuraTex, stain, fabric... what are your thoughts?
I'm about to build a pair of J12Ls and am contemplating what the covering might be.
I know many of you rely on black DuraTex (my OTB15 is black DuraTex) and I've seen some cabs stained and in fabric. The BFM birch cabs are unique and I'm thinking staining them in maybe black, walnut, or mahogany to give them a bit of class.
What are your opinions?
I know many of you rely on black DuraTex (my OTB15 is black DuraTex) and I've seen some cabs stained and in fabric. The BFM birch cabs are unique and I'm thinking staining them in maybe black, walnut, or mahogany to give them a bit of class.
What are your opinions?
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Re: DuraTex, stain, fabric... what are your thoughts?
Depends on what you are using them for. If you are out gigging - duratex is the best to keep it from getting dinged up. Anyway, plywood doesn't stain worth a crap and looks homemade.nola50 wrote:I'm about to build a pair of J12Ls and am contemplating what the covering might be.
I know many of you rely on black DuraTex (my OTB15 is black DuraTex) and I've seen some cabs stained and in fabric. The BFM birch cabs are unique and I'm thinking staining them in maybe black, walnut, or mahogany to give them a bit of class.
What are your opinions?
Nothing wrong with using Tolex either.
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Re: DuraTex, stain, fabric... what are your thoughts?
I don't know about not staining well. I think both my T-60 and T-39 turned out really well!
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Re: DuraTex, stain, fabric... what are your thoughts?
Veneer? I don't know if they come in sheets big enough, but if most old hi-fi speakers were covered in it, it should be viable. Besides Duratex, Tolex would be my 2nd choice.
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Re: DuraTex, stain, fabric... what are your thoughts?
Use a conditioner. Then go find general finishes Gel stains. Nothing else will give a consistent finish. Voice of experience.
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Re: DuraTex, stain, fabric... what are your thoughts?
I don't know how long the covering will last but, here's something different. http://www.parts-express.com/brand/vvivid-vinyl/631
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Re: DuraTex, stain, fabric... what are your thoughts?
Stained my TLAH, SLA, and THTLP, all BB.
Came out a bit blotchy, was not a gel stain nor conditioned. I would heed Master Lelands advice. Still not an issue in a dark room though.
Came out a bit blotchy, was not a gel stain nor conditioned. I would heed Master Lelands advice. Still not an issue in a dark room though.
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Re: DuraTex, stain, fabric... what are your thoughts?
I've found General Finishes here.LelandCrooks wrote:Use a conditioner. Then go find general finishes Gel stains. Nothing else will give a consistent finish. Voice of experience.
What's the drying time for conditioner and then stain on J12Ls 1/4 BB?
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Re: DuraTex, stain, fabric... what are your thoughts?
IIRC 4-8 hrs. If you use the water bourne Gel wait 24. It's what I use most of the time. It can be done without the conditioner, and won't blotch out like other stains. The conditioner is insurance, and also makes the color more controllable.
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Re: DuraTex, stain, fabric... what are your thoughts?
What's your opinion on black DuraTex on outside and black gel stain on inside? The idea is that DuraTex might hold up better for the outside finish instead of gel stain.LelandCrooks wrote:Use a conditioner. Then go find general finishes Gel stains. Nothing else will give a consistent finish. Voice of experience.
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Re: DuraTex, stain, fabric... what are your thoughts?
No question that Duratex will hold up better. Stain has no protection against bumps - Duratex does.nola50 wrote:What's your opinion on black DuraTex on outside and black gel stain on inside? The idea is that DuraTex might hold up better for the outside finish instead of gel stain.LelandCrooks wrote:Use a conditioner. Then go find general finishes Gel stains. Nothing else will give a consistent finish. Voice of experience.
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Re: DuraTex, stain, fabric... what are your thoughts?
Thought I'd jump in here and mention that, although Leland gave you what I believe is a total dry time estimate, most stain pre-conditioners require that you stain about 5-15 minutes after application.nola50 wrote:What's the drying time for conditioner and then stain on J12Ls 1/4 BB?
If you were curious
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Re: DuraTex, stain, fabric... what are your thoughts?
And, of course, I am! Plan, plan, plan on this build.James Champer wrote:Thought I'd jump in here and mention that, although Leland gave you what I believe is a total dry time estimate, most stain pre-conditioners require that you stain about 5-15 minutes after application.nola50 wrote:What's the drying time for conditioner and then stain on J12Ls 1/4 BB?
If you were curious
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Re: DuraTex, stain, fabric... what are your thoughts?
Cool,
oh and my thoughts?
Yes... Duratex, will, stain, fabric.
(couldn't resist )
oh and my thoughts?
Yes... Duratex, will, stain, fabric.
(couldn't resist )
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Re: DuraTex, stain, fabric... what are your thoughts?
With pro gear about ten minutes. It's very thin, and will easily rip. It would be OK for a home speaker that's never moved, and never exposed to anything that could damage it, like a vacuum cleaner.Tom Smit wrote:I don't know how long the covering will last